Thread: would it be a sin?

Im not religous, but if you are think of it this way,perhaps the real world is God's world, where you have to follow his rules, but your mind is your own world. No one can ever take your imagination from you, and it can never hurt any one, so why would God care?

Also, I think most relgion were made up to control people (scientology is a great example). Christianity was made for good reason, but over time it was used for evil. I don't think the church could have gotten further from Jesus' teachings. Also, the Bible never mentions hell once. Hell is a mistranslation of the word sheol or something, and is supposed to mean "grave", so you don't have to worry about that if you are christian.

Originally Posted by Amethyst Star

They can sometimes cause us to take a closer look at ourselves when we wake up, so I don't classify dreams as entirely "fantasy."

Oh, I agree. But that's just it: dreams are more likely to reflect the real world in a fantasy setting than to impose fantasy onto the real-world experience.

So, dreaming about bad things isn't nearly as likely to make you do those bad things in real life. Conversely, real-life thoughts can and do seep into our dreams in various forms.

Originally Posted by Harrycombs

Also, the Bible never mentions hell once. Hell is a mistranslation of the word sheol or something, and is supposed to mean "grave", so you don't have to worry about that if you are christian.

Quoted for truth.

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

Oh, I agree. But that's just it: dreams are more likely to reflect the real world in a fantasy setting than to impose fantasy onto the real-world experience.

So, dreaming about bad things isn't nearly as likely to make you do those bad things in real life. Conversely, real-life thoughts can and do seep into our dreams in various forms.

For the most part I agree. On the topic of dreams affecting one's reality, I was just trying to point out that they can affect us more than we think. It depends on the person, obviously, but one should be cautious to disregard their thoughts or dreams as purely fantasy.

As just a personal example, I've forbidden myself from listening to Evanesence. There were certain songs I was listening to when I was in a foul mood and it only made it worse, but I didn't stop so I became more depressed. So I broke the CD (a burned one). The same thing can happen when I get angry. It was even worse when I was going through my moral crisis... but that time's passed... and it was a doozy!

My personal opinion would be that it could come down to the religion or personal beliefs. for example christians have more crazy ass rules than blockbuster and for example if you're christian you can't masturbate but everyone does it anyways and when you ask a pastor or priest if its a sin they say its cool (well at least some). i don't know about other cultures but maybe it could alsp depend on what your beliefs are. i think that it comes down to what your personal values and morals are and what you consider to be good or bad. just like if a 9 yr or pushes an old lady into a highway from a helicopter in a dream it might seem funny and amusing to him but when he matures he will see that that is a cruel and immoral act.

Originally Posted by SEBSTER

for example christians have more crazy ass rules than blockbuster and for example if you're christian you can't masturbate

Christians cant masturbate? then how come catholics and mormons have such big families?

to religious people, EVERYTHING is a sin.

Christians can masturbate. It is said somewhere, that we shall not waste our semen, but it is proven, that we have, in theory, infinite semen. We can't just run out of it for good because of masturbating.

Originally Posted by hbash089

to religious people, EVERYTHING is a sin.

that's painting with a pretty broad brush, wouldn't you say?

Originally Posted by a_pirates_life_for_me

Christians cant masturbate? then how come catholics and mormons have such big families?

you are joking right?

Originally Posted by JFK

you are joking right?

yes, that would be sarcasm, next time I'll put a so people know. I was just saying that to prove that they CAN masturbate

Also, the Bible never mentions hell once. Hell is a mistranslation of the word sheol or something, and is supposed to mean "grave", so you don't have to worry about that if you are christian.

Perhaps you're forgetting the verse where Jesus himself says sinners will be cast into a lake of fire. Right, he didn't say the specific word "hell," but I think that's an acceptable description of a lake of fire

As I read more posts, I see everyone seems to be hung up on sin only being sin if it hurts someone else. I can understand that reasoning from non-christians, but Christians must know that Jesus himself said that to even look at a woman lustfully was a sin. How can you say that gleefully entertaining all kinds of sinful desires and consciously acting on them, even if it is only in dreams, is not a sin, in light of the words of the Son of God himself?

If dreams accurately mirrored our true selves then (and I hate to tell you this), by your God's standards, we're all going to rot and burn in hell for eternity

Exactly the Christians' point. I won't say that I hate to tell you this, but I know you won't like it. You, and everyone else would rot and burn in hell for eternity except for the sacrifice of Jesus.

I have to agree with Sylvanus. The quotes from the Bible pretty much seal off any room for argument. Unless you don't believe in the Bible, or sin, in which case, why are you here?