Quote Originally Posted by ethen View Post
I don't see how that answers my question Chaos, and in case you try the ol' of "your ignorant because you wont even try it, thus nothing you say has any merit" fallacy, remember that I have actually tried this (not those six lessons, mind you) and even if i hadn't, my points are still valid. I actually got it to move a few times. But as soon as the glass went over the setup, nada, even after much practice. And since videos of covered psi wheel can and are faked on a regular basis, such examples are moot. And thats my TK experience in a nut shell


Now here's the problem in a nutshell, seeing as its rather difficult to stress this point:

-Thousands of people claim they can perform telekinsis at will.
-Many dedicate their time to promoting and defending TK.
-Of these people, most are bothered by the fact that TK is not recognized as a legitimate phenomenon, especially in the eyes of sceince.
-Thousands of sceintists are willing to test telekinesis under sceintific conditions.
-This situation has been going on for decades
-Though there have been experiments, not one case of TK has ever been validated (or recognized by the sceintific community as being legit).

Its not unreasonable to consider this and be suspicious of TK, and it doesnt help that, even though such a phenomenon is so widespread nowadays, there is still no actual substantiation or validation of TK. Those big numbers aren't helping your case, they are hurting it. As more and more people claim to be able to do TK, the less likely the lack of scientifically sound evidence is due to "oversight".



Im not saying its impossible. At one time, germs weren't recognised by sceince either. But only time can tell. And please don't cite "what the bleep", thats movie made a mad-libz out of sceince.

I've never stated that you were ignorant nor do I call anyone by that even if they do not try it. I simply say say believe what you want. To tell you the truth I had a hard time learning Psi myself. In fact I used to practice it a few years ago. I began to gain interest as I became more skilled with it but to my dismay from a short week break I lost everythat that I had done so just quit.

And the Wig what is the matter with that?

Actually the Energy ball is part of traditional Ki excercise and usually not used in martial arts.

And to the oblivious one who stated something about Anime, I suggest looking up the term as I have said in previous posts, Rad ki. That is the Anime form of the Traditional Chi excercises ( Which of course you probably know nothing about considering you brought up anime. )