Thread: Subliminal Messaging

Its not on the system tray but I'll look at some of the help manuals, I just dont understand why when I open it, the messages start, the menu doesn't and my PC crashes (98 seccond edition, by the way)

But kudos to you, because the night after I first used it (while it worked) I went lucid. You rock!

Originally posted by Nights
Its not on the system tray * *but I'll look at some of the help manuals, I just dont understand why when I open it, the messages start, the menu doesn't and my PC crashes (98 seccond edition, *by the way)

But kudos to you, because the night after I first used it (while it worked) I went lucid. You rock!

Hmm... I'm positive its a problem with those checkbox settings though.
Do you know how to use regedit?
Then open it and find HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWARESublime
Change the values for settings 'AutoMinimize' and 'AutoStart' to 0 (zero)

That should stop it starting automatically.

The check the categories and make sure they all have messages in them
I'm willing to bet that there is an empty one.

BTW, I'm going to change the program soon to exclude the NT-specific stuff, and take out some of the annoying bugs (like the ones you're having)

I'm happy you're getting success though! Good stuff!
Here to the continued success -

This was weird.....Since I started using it (I had that I would see Angel (From a tv show I watch) in ym dream and become lucid.) I've not seen him in a dream (Well...sorta...But I think it was him...But I never saw him) but I've seen my favorite characotr from the Show Angel, Spike..xD.....twice and once I was him..O.o...And I've had 2 lucid dreams since I started using it....It was never by seeing Angel, though. XD.

Originally posted by Kaniaz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kaniaz)</div>

Double post, yes. But I just couldn't resist this one.

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Yes I do! The placebo effect is the measurable, observable, or felt improvement in health not attributable to treatment. This effect is believed by many people to be due to the placebo itself in some mysterious way. A placebo (latin for \"I shall please\") is a medication or treatment believed by the administrator of the treatment to be inert or innocuous. Placebos may be sugar pills or starch pills. Even “fake” surgery and “fake” psychotherapy are considered placebos.

No, you don't know what a placebo is. I have the inert ability of telling when somebody's copied and pasted something from somewhere, as it dosen't fit into their writing style.

Note how this website's first paragraph is exactly the same as Evanescent's explanation of it, rule out the italicated part of his quote.

So, in fact, you basically copied and pasted it. [/b]

OWNED!!!! Kaniaz pretty much took the time to confirm what all of us already knew...not a big deal anyway. There should be no shame in ignorance as long as one has the desire to learn. I don't mind not knowing everything about computers and being stumped by many of the conversations they have here about them, but when I need to know what it is, I will.

check this out........basicly how it works is u run it...... and ever so often stuff flashes in the background of your comp... jus like the eat popcorn drink coke thing did for theatres.......
http://www.isc.esmartbiz.com/

Cool, now I can tst which one works better! When the next Placebo one comes out because I have given up on thie old one, it made my PC crash lots. Great program though.

Originally posted by insanejester
check this out........basicly how it works is u run it...... and ever so often stuff flashes in the background of your comp... jus like the eat popcorn drink coke thing did for theatres.......
http://www.isc.esmartbiz.com/

As usual, it's a trial version
Thanks for the link though - I like to see the competition, so I know how to change my one for the better.
(YEs yess.. first I need to fix the bugs.. I know I know)

[EDIT]
Unfortunately... the name is very close to mine. Wonder how dangerous it is ... hmm.
The site looks professionally laid out. So I'm guessing its probably better than mine. More money and time gone into it.
The downside obviously means it costs money

lol your a programmer so you should obviosely be abel to dissimble the trial version take out the trial part reassimble it and make it just as good as the original right?

Only if
1) I disassemble it and try cracking assembly code. Can do it, but might be time consuming.
2) Have the source code
3) I want to do something illegal

Originally posted by Placebo
Only if
1) I disassemble it and try cracking assembly code. Can do it, but might be time consuming.
2) Have the source code
3) I want to do something illegal

1) it aint as time consuming as makin one from scratch
2) who needs a source code?
3) it only illegal if ya get cought mate

p.s.
thats not the only subliminal messaging prog ive seen while searchin the net, im sure u could find at least 2 or 3 more... talkin bout gettin one up on your competition and all

I tried the program, and its quite configurable, and pretty nice.

The lowest speed of the message they allow is either 0.5s or 'subliminal'.
Unfortunately thats a big big gap ... 0.5 is way too long.
And I don't believe it works on the 'subliminal' setting at all.
They are simply timing the message to appear for eg. 5ms
But since the screen refresh cannot DISPLAY the picture in that time, you physically will not have the message appear on the screen at all.
(most of the time anyway)

I stand to correction, if someone can prove me wrong. But after the amount of research I did into making my own one, I stand by what I say here.

I'll look into it further to see if they know something that perhaps I don't

Originally posted by insanejester
p.s.
thats not the only subliminal messaging prog ive seen while searchin the net, im sure u could find at least 2 or 3 more... talkin bout gettin one up on your competition and all

If you would care to read the entire thread, you would read that I did not make this program to make money.
I made it for myself, and for the hell of it. Call it experience if you will - although I have enough of that already.

As for all the others out there - the only free ones I could find didn't work well enough for my liking, for various reasons.

Originally posted by insanejester
p.s.
thats not the only subliminal messaging prog ive seen while searchin the net, im sure u could find at least 2 or 3 more... talkin bout gettin one up on your competition and all

If you would care to read the entire thread, you would read that I did not make this program to make money.
I made it for myself, and for the hell of it. Call it experience if you will - although I have enough of that already.


"As usual, it's a trial version
Thanks for the link though -I like to see the competition, so I know how to change my one for the better.
(YEs yess.. first I need to fix the bugs.. I know I know)"

i didnt say anything about money..... those were your words.... not mine... wonder what that means

and you shouldnt be conceded about your amount of experiance... theres always more to experiance and you can never have enough of it....

Hehe talk about bumping a thread It seems like some people have been using my program, so I went searching.

I notice I never responded to insanejester. Well - better late than never

i didnt say anything about money..... those were your words.... not mine... wonder what that means[/b]

What I meant is that I don't care about competition (which you were jabbing me about), since I have nothing to gain out of it. Mainly because I'm not SELLING it.

and you shouldnt be conceded about your amount of experiance... theres always more to experiance and you can never have enough of it....[/b]

I'm guessing you meant 'conceited'.
You're jumping to conclusions on what I said.
I said that I have enough experience - but 'enough' for what?
You assumed I meant enough that I never want any more, and I'm some sort of arrogant god (okay, maybe not quite that harsh )

What I DID mean is that I'm a developer by profession and I've worked on huge projects that dwarf this one.
I have 'enough' experience in work like this to do it in my sleep, and a project like this is unlikely to gain me that much experience 'points'. I need more complex / impressive projects to do that

Of course theres always more experience to be gained. When you think you know it all, there's always someone to prove you wrong.

I downloaded it, and it works great if your not looking for it and dont know its there.I actually couldn't see it for the first 5 minutes it was there.

This old nugget comes to haunt us. It's a lovely program, I'm sure, but as we argued about soooooo many times we're not actually sure if it's subliminal messaging, a placebo effect or what.

Lol im not gonna use it for lucid dreaming, im gonna use it to get my mom to buy me an X-box LOL.

If it doesn't work then i'll just delete it.

Originally posted by Kastro187420
Lol im not gonna use it for lucid dreaming, im gonna use it to get my mom to buy me an X-box LOL.

If it doesn't work then i'll just delete it.

ROFL!! You're meant to use the power only for good!

Besides, it's not THAT subliminal on most PCs. There's a fair chance your mother will notice something fishy

Originally posted by Placebo
I don't know how original this really idea is, but here goes...

Remember the days when they flashed pictures of eg. Pepsi on the movie screens, and this caused viewers to buy pepsi after the movie?
Remember how it was made illegal because, basically, it worked too well?

Well, people were being a bit paranoid about the CLAIMS for Subliminal Suggestion. The Military, both in the Pentagon and the Kremlim, experimented their little hearts out, with subliminal suggestion to see if it could make their soldiers more willing to be ruthless monsters, and no amount of Subliminal Suggestion made the slightest impact over the Control Groups.

Yes, people who buy such subliminal CD's and Tapes rave about how effective they are. But look at the dynamics here. They spent good money for these Things. Then they make a daily ritual about using the Things. THAT, the ritual that they keep on a daily basis, is what turns out to be effective for them. Putting the Cassette in the Tape Recorder and then laying down to listen to its silly sound of waves crashing, THAT is what suggests to the Subconscious Mind that this person really really desires a modification in his or her behavior.

If you want something that will actually provide Suggestion, then get a REAL Tape or CD that has a voice. Yes, you may need a little bit of privacy, unless you want everybody in your household to know what you are doing. But if you are already using Subliminal Tapes, then they already think your crazy, so what is there to lose?

In the "Attaining Lucidity" Section refer to my Thread on the Fonix "ISpeak" Software Package, in which you simply have to write up a script, and the software can read it aloud, and convert it to MP3 or WAV files to be played by other media. With that you can make Honest to God Auto Hypnotic CD's of your own. Some guy said he found the Software online for less than $15 and I found it retail for just less than $25.

Leo:

Yeah, if you skim the 6 pages of this thread (quite long, I know), you'll see that that point was brought up, that subliminals possibly don't work. At least not the way we are led to believe.

Nevertheless, this isn't 100% subliminal. You can see something flashing at times. If nothing else, it's useful as a placebo effect, or as a reminder of what you're trying to do. Eg to train a new reality check or just get LDing into the brain

As Kaniaz says, it's an old nugget. It's been whipped a fair amount already.
When people can persuade me that it works well (eg. for LD's) , then we can examine why.

I made the program as an interesting experiment, nothing else. I also had no idea at the time that subliminal imaging was so controversial in terms of effectiveness.

Originally posted by Placebo
Leo:


I made the program as an interesting experiment, nothing else. I also had no idea at the time that subliminal imaging was so controversial in terms of effectiveness.

Sometimes it is good to be 'innocent'. Almost any positive action a person takes to become a Better Person is taken as an Acceptable Sacrifice by the Higher Mind. Any established Ritual designed for a purpose, no matter how objectively silly, will act as a suitable vehicle of Suggestion. It can't fail but to occur to the Subconscious Mind that whatever issue has instigated all of these bazaar behaviors must be important to the poor devil and so the Suggestions, if at all possible, are put into effect. And if the Suggestions are impossible, then the Higher Mind sets to work at other angles to provide some consolation.

People dismiss the Placebo Effect, but nowadays, it is finally occurring to medicat science just how powerful the Placebo Effect is. We have doctors now who will tell patients "I really should not give you this, but it is a new miracle drug that is being used in a study where the results are simply going through the roof. I figured they would not miss one pill. Anyway, take it, it will turn you around immediately and you will begin to feel better right away". Then guess what happens? When patients are very sick and demoralized and it appears that they are drifting away toward death, it is the Placebo Effect, properly administered, which can bring them back from the brink. If Time is all that is needed, the Placebo Effect is good for at least 72 hours. When it is a question of Life or Death, a 72 hour Remission from Symptoms can be a God Send.

What does the Placebo Effect require? Simply an accepted Authority figure to make a positive and credable assertion.

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What does the Placebo Effect require? Simply an accepted Authority figure to make a positive and credable assertion.

It also requires that person to have a good deal of charisma, to carry people along in that vein, make them truly believe the hype...

No it doesn't. All you have to do is believe it. A simple packaging saying "this will cure stomach sickness" will have the placebo effect. Perhaps even moreso than those "untrustworthy doctors".

That's true Kaniaz, but even so, the person who believes the label only believes it because of the accepted authority figure i.e. a drug company. If a bum made his own medicine and sold them in plastic bags that said "this will cure stomach sickness", I doubt many people would believe it.

Originally posted by irishcream


It also requires that person to have a good deal of charisma, to carry people along in that vein, make them truly believe the hype...

Sometimes Charisma can be generalized within a Society. The Doctor's White Smock and Stethoscope, with all of the Nurses careful to refer to him as 'Doctor' -- these Medical Professionals are scarcely even Human anymore, but seem to occuppy their own Mount Olympus. It gives them a kind of instant Charisma.

In fact it is as much a blessing as a curse, for our society. The Aura of being a Doctor seems so above the norm, that rather intelligent children hardly consider the profession, and would rather waste their lives fighting on the battlefield of wasteful contentions of the Legal Profession, becoming Lawyers, than to choose the profession most akin to a secular Sainthood, which is Medicine. Of course, engineering is good also.

But, yes, doctors come prepackaged with Charisma.

Television has done them a great dis-service by pretending in their scripts that Doctors can be stupid, foolish, and possessed by all the normal problems that ordinary people encounter. Nothing could be further from the Truth. The Selection Process even from the Undergraduate Level is far to rigourous for any 'normal' person to get through it. Only the Creme de Creme can make it through to becoming doctors. But the problem is with silly and stupid Screen Writers trying to even imagine such qualities and perfections. It is all quite beyond the comprehensions of such Hollywood Lowlifes.