Thread: bad for your mind maybe?

Originally posted by Serinanth
When you find your soul mate and then fuckin wake up you try telling me its just some random memory that your subconsious came up with.

(edit) let me clarify... when you find and build a lifetime with your soulmate and then wake up to find none of it is real anymore you get back to me.


Sorry...

You never told me that...
I do understand though. There are few things worse than waking up from an experience like that and realizing that it was all a dream. Or that it was a part of a life that you're not living anymore.

Anyone ever see that Star Trek episode where Captain Picard gets hit with some beam-thingie that knocks him out and he lives another lifetime? He wakes up at the end of that life, many years later, only to realize that about five minutes had gone by with him passed out on the ship. That episode always gets me.

For the record though, despite those dreams, I don't believe in 'soul mates'.

Originally posted by lostanddelirious
so if your telling your mind what to dream then is it kind of obstructing it from doing its job?

Interesting...

Seems so. I feel like it is as if my conscious mind and unconscious mind are melding together, so it's not as though the unconscious is not doing its job -more like I am able to witness it "do its job" first-hand... kinda like an active participant rather than an inactive (un-aware) participant.

Originally posted by lostanddelirious
the only thing i worry about with lucid dreams is that dreams are meant to be like a release and a place for your mind to sort out all the days shit
so if your telling your mind what to dream then is it kind of obstructing it from doing its job?

hmm....I hear some people wake up tired as hell after lucid dreaming...

sorry you don't believe in soul mates Lost Soul.

I've been with mine for over 20 years(since 1981). If something were to happen, I'd shrivel up and die! It's that tight of a bond.

what exactly is a soul mate.

Well, as I once said, I believe i've found my same-sex soul mate (whether there's one for each sex..I have no idea). I believe he is my sould mate because we are eerily similar and I believe we are actually the same soul dwelling within two bodies...like we were separated. And

gotta go, i'll post more later

um...so in other words...someone who thinks just like you? *scratches head*

Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
um...so in other words...someone who thinks just like you? *scratches head*

I used to think that it was someone that you felt completed you, someone who complimented your life. Your missing puzzle pieces so to speak. But I don't think that way anymore. I think that we can find our missing pieces within ourselves if we just look hard enough. I'm sorry to sound so tactless here, but I think it's stupid to think that any other being can complete you. Quite frankly, I believe that no other person in this world is worthy of being my second wing. When you love someone, you give them a piece of yourself. That's too high a price for me.

If you feel that you've found someone you think completes you, then that's wonderful! I'm very happy that you've been given that elusive gift of sharing yourself, and having another share themselves with you. You took a big risk, and I'm happy that it worked out well for you.

When you love someone, you give them a piece of yourself. That's too high a price for me.
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There is also a thing refered to as "Twin Soul"(I believe)

The twin soul would not only be your soul mate,but also be your lover,your big brother,your caring sister and your best friend at the same(not litteraly of course,but in a sense it would feel that way)

Now thats true love..no?

Alec! *snuggle*

Paperdoll, I've had thoughts about it being another reality, but I dont think if you do all you can and want to do while your asleep will hurt you...unless you start sleeping 18 hours a day and missing real life abligations....I dont know if I buy the idea of soulmates, it's definately romantic, but would your soulmate be your exact same, or your exact opposite....If I found my exact same I might not get along well, and my exact opposite might be aggrevateing as well....As far as a life mate, it depends on mutual love, hard work, growing and many other things.....more twords complimenting eachother.

Anybody ever read 2150AD? They go into a lot about twin souls, and close souls.
I think the theory goes something like all sould have a resonant frequency.
If two sould have the same frequency, they are twin.
The closer the resonant frequency between souls, the closer they will be and the more compatible they will be.

Pick up a copy of the book if you can find it. Really a good read!

Originally posted by Seeker
Pick up a copy of the book if you can find it. *Really a good read!

Thanks for the tip,if I find it,i'll take alook at it 8)

Shawndow, I didnt mean to be an asshole, I just kinda get upset about this stuff, its weird when most of your life is just a memory that according to everone else but myself, didnt happen, makes me wonder who the hell I am, and how I have come to be ther person I am through experiences that didnt happen.

I dont think its a matter of completion though, I think a soulmate is another spirit with the same EXACT resonance of your spirit, this is not easy to find. Its somone that thinks feels experiences the world like you do, someone that you can relate to on every level... And a soulmate could very well be the same sex as you, but in that place I happend to find my mate to be the opposite

Lost soul, theres alot I havent told you.

And some things I do not think you can complete in yourself without the interaction of others, a soulmate allows you find out who you are through interaction with a spirit that is virtually the same as yours in origin, the only difference being their perception and experience is different than yours, so it does make them different being they arent your mirror image. And they do react to situations differently.

But because they perceive the world around them the same way you do, the both of you learn, through experiencing the world together, and comapring notes so to speak =).

And I am sorry you think the way you do now and cant express how sorry I am for helping you think the way you do now. =(

And I did not control the dream, I usualy only have influence on myself, either its that I am stuck with low level lucidity even though I am fully aware its a dream. OR I am traveling by wormhole to other places and times... far fetched? probably not, wormholes exist on the quantum level whats to say the spirit which has no mass cant travel through these wormholes? I can get into that theory in another thread I am gona start tonight.

So I have become lucid most my life by form of epiphany, some times I realise due to the events and circumstances of the dream but most of the time its just like my mind says quietly, something isint right. In the event of those long dreams, its different I wake up consious, its like waking up from a nights sleep but oop! where the hell am I? and I have already said what its like in relation to this place only becoming a fuzzy dream, and that place becoming the reality.

I only recently started trying to induce lucidity.

Last night I MILD'd I was in a house that I thought was my own, but it was not. Well anyways, everything was as real as here as usual, wrtiting is stable digital devices are normal, and electronics tend to work. But I knew It was a dream.

I tried the spinning technique to change the surroundings... all I accomplished was getting dizzy and waking myself up because of it.

I dont know whats the deal with my dreams, why would some of them have reality so firmly in place, or rather have the same rule-set and myself having the same abilities as here, and others not?

I know somone is going to say self doubt blah blah blah limitations of your mind... but I can change into a dragon remember? can soar the skies on my own power, no magic.. I can even do that though too, beleive me, I think I can do anything, here or in dream whether or not I can do it though seems to depend on the environment...I dont get it. Why does it seem like my dreams are different than most everyone else? Once people attain lucidity they can paint their world. I seem to have wandered into somone elses painting.



...damned deja-vu.

Originally posted by Serinanth+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Serinanth)</div>

Lost soul, theres alot I havent told you.[/b]

...yeah, no shit.

Originally posted by Serinanth@
And some things I do not think you can complete in yourself without the interaction of others, a soulmate allows you find out who you are through interaction with a spirit that is virtually the same as yours in origin, the only difference being their perception and experience is different than yours, so it does make them different being they arent your mirror image. And they do react to situations differently.

But because they perceive the world around them the same way you do, the both of you learn, through experiencing the world together, and comapring notes so to speak =).

And do you think the price you pay for a soul mate is worth it? Sorry, but I don't. Giving up a piece of myself to someone who's just going to throw it back in my face? Look, maybe there is such a thing as a soul mate or whatever. Maybe I just SUCK ASS at finding mine. Or maybe my stepfather was right and he did drop dead before we met. After doing this to myself twice, I think I've learned that my soul mate doesn't exist and I'm the only one I can ever depend on for everything. There is no one out there for me to share myself with in perfect trust. There is no one out there who will be my 'perfect match'. Some people have that perfect match, I guess. And that's just wonderful. Hooray for them.

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And I am sorry you think the way you do now and cant express how sorry I am for helping you think the way you do now. =(

So am I. But thanks. Because of you, I've learned a lot about myself.

And for those of you who haven't already figured it out, I am the one who shared that dream with Serinanth. I am his 'friend' and we proved that it happened when we spoke the next day. There was no mistaking it... he told me details that he couldn't possibly know unless he'd been there, in that dream, with me.

So for everyone who can't get enough of talking about shared dreaming, it does exist and it is possible. Stop posting about it and just friggin do it. But make sure you know what you're getting into. Make sure you're mentally able to handle it because obviously I wasn't.

Fuck this...
Willow out.

please.....I'm seriously crying now in front of my screen...

Would a hermaphrodite have a soulmate??!!

WOA, DEEP...

If it ever came to exploring the mind of any 1 on this earth. Seri would be a sure canidate.

AS for Soulmate. umm Trust is the first step to building any relationship. From what it sounds like, youv been hurt quite a few times. That makes me feel very at the momment. But there is 1 abosulte person that you might consider trusting..... God.


Soulmate you sure peeked the penical of my curiosity when metioned that you and Seri Dreamscaped. I havn't been able to get Dream Scaping out of my mind since i herd about it. I'm just wondering how you did it though. Maybe you guys should post you experince on Lucid Experinces (although it sounds personal). Did you meet somewhere or did you focus on a certain resoante energy.



WOW
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Shawndow, you are absolutely right. There is one person I can put the whole of my trust and heart and soul into and without her I don't know where I would be right now. She is my strength, she cries my tears. But before I digress any further...

Anyway, how did I do it? I don't know... you'd be better off asking Serinanth if he knows how he did it because I didn't really do anything. I just sorta popped into the Dreaming and there he was. I didn't focus on him, I didn't focus on any specific area or energy resonance... I just went to sleep. I don't even remember if I was thinking about him, but considering my feelings at the time, it's likely that he was on my mind. I'm not going to post anything more about it because he's already described things from his point of view. The details of my point of view are very personal and very dear to me and I'd like to keep it that way. Thank you for respecting that; I appreciate it.

I also want to apologize to you guys. I'm sorry for freaking like that. I'm not sure what set me off... it wasn't really anything specific... just a general feeling of shitty, I guess. I am still in a sufficient amount of pain, and though that is a poor excuse, I think it did contribute to my wiggin out. So... yeah. I'm sorry and stuff.

I suck at apologies...

I just wanted it to happen, I have no idea how it did exactly happen.

Shawndow, I already posted about it, "the day the scientist went out to lunch."

What did you think I was making this stuff up? I wasnt kidding, neither am I now.

I meditated for several hours focusing, and then transitioned directly into dream, and there she was. And Im not kidding about the figure that I saw afterwards either. It was a warning about what I did, I dont think I was supposed to do it no matter that I havent a clue how it actually worked.


And yes I do think the price is worth it, that is my experience not yours though, it may not be worth it to you, but finding out who I am is important to me and finding somone akin to my spirit, I am going to have to do alot of searching, but I think my soulmate would be searcing for me to the same degree I am searching.
I think thats why my dreams are so odd, I am searching even there, we found each other once so far.
And yeah it sucks for me too, I have failed 6 times in this place.. i wont even get into how many times in teh dream world but im not going to give up just yet.

The price is always worth it when someone else is footing the bill.

And what the hell? You just sort of summoned me into your dream? Like "hey, I wanna see this girl" (for some reason that is still unknown to me) and POOF! there I was? And then the rest of it? How does that work? How is that fair? And for fuck's sake, why do I even care at this point? Good lord, I'm grumpy. It happened, it's in the past, and we learned something from it. So... neat or whatever.

Finding out who I am is very important to me, especially now that I realize I am the only one I have. I don't need to find some fucking 'soul mate' to complete me! For a long time, I thought that I could find my missing pieces in someone else. I thought that having love in my life would complete me. But both you and Dave showed me that I was wrong, and I still thank you both for it. There is no one 'akin to your spirit'. That's a fairy tale notion that humans like to hang onto for some reason. I guess it makes us feel better. Whatever. If you think you have a soul mate that will complete you and she's alive and searching for you now, more power to you. Hope she finds you and you realize it when she does. That goes for everyone, too. If you can actually find completion in the company of someone else, then, hey, that's wonderful and I'm happy for you. Bright blessings for you.

Me? I hope my soul mate drops dead before I meet him because I don't even want to deal with the idea of love anymore. Am I being selfish? Hell yes I am. Do I care that I'm being selfish? Hell no! It's about time someone cared about me, even if it has to be me that does the caring. Whoever came up with the dumbass saying, "It is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all" obviously never did it. He should be dragged out into the street and shot. Multiple times. And then stepped on.

Holy shit... I just went off on some psycho tangent and I have no idea what this topic was about...

I'm going to bed before I decide that I need another drink... or two.

Say Seeker,a little getting back to something but whos the writer of 2150AD,I was gonna try and get it but I need 2 know who wrote it,so if you could tell me i'd really appreciate it

Here is the amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...760961?v=glance

Author is Thea Alexander was written in 1971.
Really ahead of it's time. I read it when it was new, and think I am going to buy it again and see what 30 years have done to my perspectice.

REALLY GREAT BOOK.