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      bad for your mind maybe?

      if you become a lucid pro, and you can have them at will blah blah blah, do you think all this going back and forth from two realities could I dunno make you crazy? or maybe depressed? I really don't know I'm not even close to mastering LDs..


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      Mabey it will make you neglect your normal life because the other life is so much better, I dont know i havnt mastered it yet either..
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      Like I mean,when you become totally obsessed with it you would just sit out the day and wait for the day to pass and go to sleep again
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      or...when you learn to 'slow time' in your dreams spend *years* there..


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      Just make sure that your LD world does not become more important than your waking world and you begin to neglect those around you
      you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
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      Hmmm..I cant say I wouldnt hehe,but if it will have any effects..I dont know..but i think when you start the time freeze thing, a month becomes a year, a year becomes 5 years..and so on..until you are like a ultra powerful spirit being that can live without the body and stay there forever

      Dunno bout that..but everything is possible
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      hmm...this is one hell of a subject...

      but really...does anyone think it could drive you insane? (and don't get all "Well what is sanity?" on me )


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      I think if you become to obsessive with it and everything revolves around and you MUST MUST MUST you will eventually go "insane" I think,but thats the trick to remain sane and keep it together and be patient
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      Maybe not insane. But perhaps Autistic.

      I have an autistic cousin. He is always in his dream world. In fact many older cultures call autistic the 'Dream people'
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      that doesn't make sense to me. it just seems irrelevent..


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      How do you know that autistic people are not living in a dream world and that their physical bodies are on auto pilot?
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      ahhh, now I see the relevance! sorry...that is very interesting..

      it seems DV is really heating up!!


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      Back to the question, can LD make you crazy? depressed? and how do you know when to its time to stop?

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      As Stephen LaBerge said, once he stopped desireing the LDs he stopped having them. If you begin to get depressed from them then just stop wanting them, and youll stop having them. Personally I dont think you could go insane because ultimatly your mind will prevent this. You have control on what affect these dreams have on you..you could interpret them different ways but I would say if you go insane it was partially your decision to let your dreams get to you.

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      I also belive you can't go insane from haveing to may LD. Although you may find your Dream World as a retreat from your every day life. There will always still varibles from the outside world that pull you out of this retreat. Hunger, realationships, and money (root of all eveil, next to power). The only possible way i could see you go crazy from Lucid Dreamin is if MAYBE you were knowcked into a Coma. And while dreaming you knew you were in 1 and couln't get out. So when you finnally got out of 1, your perseption of the outside world is screwed up.



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      I'm wondering that if for some LDers having these dreams all the time could be bad for you physically....

      Because so many of my dreams are extremely intense (flying, falling, fighting, etc.) I often wonder if my adrenaline glands (and other parts of my system are not working in overdrive and if that could be a bad thing in the long run. So far there appears to be no physical side effects, but I'm wondering about long term. Sometrimes I get paranoid that I wonder if I should have a brain scan or something.

      As long as you keep an active waking life, though (pleanty of things to keep you from dwelling in the nether realms of dreamland) I think we should be okay mentally... My dreams have definitely affected me a lot, but I have learned over time not to attribute too much meaning or thought to them. (I occasionally still do and have to reorganize my thoughts sometimes).

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      I wonder about getting my head checked too, I dont have any problems per se, but dream constantly and having so many ld's and waking up with them, in the worse case residual pains like when I fell off the cliff or the banshee nearly making blood shoot outa my ears...I often wonder too if it could be a bad thing.

      You must find balance between the two.

      And seeing the autistic as dreamers... I never made that correlation... and it works perfectly, alot of them do seem like they are on autopilot, just like we are in a normal non lucid dream, but at times we have moments of incredible clarity and insight and mental power, or to actually see things in complete detail, this also fiollows the autistic personality.

      as for insanity, I honestly think I have been close to it a few times, it gets rough dealing with two realities, especially since I beleive they are equally real. I have said it before though, the simple thought.
      What is real in one world is not nessesarily real in the other, everything that is happening now I will regard as my reality as I exist now, the past is memory and the future is hope and dream.

      Dont worry about it for too long, I nearly had BLOOD shoot outa my ears.

      Lewis Black "I heard something the other day... it was the most insane thing I have EVER heard.... If it werent for my horse, I woudlent have spent that year in college.... Now dont think about that for too long as blood will SHOOT our of your ears!
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      Im curious as to this slowing time in dreams (Off topic abit). If you spend what seems like 5 years in a dream, would you not wake up a changed person? After spending so long doing amazing things wouldn't waking up cause serious problems, you might even forget your life in the real world, even grow to loathe it because it's so restricting and you yearn for the dream world.
      I guess im saying that extending time in dreams may be possible but dangerous... erm so yeah Sorry for straying so far but this topic got me thinking.
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      I think spending like a couple of years in a dream or even more will effect your normal life as you will no longer be used to it,actually,I think if you do so you don't want to return anymore,i wonder if you even will in the end..
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      no.. you dont.. this place becomes just a dream.
      it works both ways,
      When you awaken in the other place, you miss here
      after a time there and then you wake back up here you miss there
      its frustrating.

      And yes you do change, you do grow, the mind shuts out alot of the experience though when you return to the othre place, I dont htink it can deal with the issue, nearly drove me nuts, but it is still there, you do remember it, like a summer long ago, its there, you dont remember what you did every day, but there are certain points that are sharp
      "A knight is sworn to valor.
      His heart knows only virtue.
      His blade defends the helpless.
      His might upholds the weak.
      His word speaks only truth.
      His wrath undoes the wicked."

      Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined

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      Originally posted by Serinanth
      I fell off the cliff or the banshee nearly making blood shoot outa my ears...
      Dont worry about it for too long, I nearly had BLOOD shoot outa my ears.
      Ever been decapitated (in dreams of course)?
      Happened to ne once -It was the strangest experience -more shock than oain 'cause it happened so fast. I woke up a split second after my spine was severed, though and woke up to do some stretching and calisthenics -just to make sure I was still connected and everything.

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      ummmm. Feel sorry for you. grrr. You really havent spent years in your DREAM, JUST MEMORIES FROM YOUR WAKING LIFE BEING ACESSED SO THAT YOU PERSIVE IT AS YEARS. Jeez, you know how many times iv had to say that.
      "I thought what I'd do was pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes..."

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      When you find your soul mate and then fuckin wake up you try telling me its just some random memory that your subconsious came up with.

      (edit) let me clarify... when you find and build a lifetime with your soulmate and then wake up to find none of it is real anymore you get back to me.


      Sorry...
      "A knight is sworn to valor.
      His heart knows only virtue.
      His blade defends the helpless.
      His might upholds the weak.
      His word speaks only truth.
      His wrath undoes the wicked."

      Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined

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      That must have been nice. But i don't belive you found your soul mate though. Don't forget the mind is a tricky thing my friend, it knows you better than you, cause it is you. You know what your ideal soulmate would be, thus does your brain (subconse and un subconse). Who better knows you better than you. Although if you did find your soulmate and you beilve it more power to you. But she could be your interpertaion of an ideal soulmate.



      Plz dont hrt me
      "I thought what I'd do was pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes..."

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      sorry Seri, that sounds really sad...


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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