Thread: reality...

I perceive gamma rays as a pleasant fragrance, therefore my reality is valid.

The quality or state of being real.

ok...so I'm in a dream. I fly. did I really fly?

I guess what my REAL question is...can you call the dream world..a whole nother reality...judging by the 'definition' of reality we know..I would say yes...but that's just it, I don't think it's an accurate definition.

<edit> This is why I call the dream world I know a 'second' reality. it's REAL, is it not?

Yep, there was a post on this before, I think I remember seri and blu said that they thought that anything that happens is reality whether in dream or not, and some others agreed some didnt.. fun fun, anyways I think reality is different depending on what you choose to believe, I personally believe that if I remember doing it, I did it, regardless of when.

exactly. if you did something, doesn;t matter where, you still did it. it's controversial with some people however, because it is in your head. ...what is lucid dreaming then? dreaming while knowing you are dreaming. but I believe it is more than that. so I guess...you are right. It has to do with beliefs.

Reality is that which never ceases to be.

could you elaborate please?

Elaboration:

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
Philip K. Dick

Or for a second opinion you could check my quote.

dreams go away, evantually, so I guess it's not a reality then.

Paperdoll, Maybe we can think of objective relativeand subjective reality. Objective reality would be that which is fixed i.e. the physical world. A circle is round, a triangle has three corners, gravity, air pressure, water, etc. Subjective reality is the percpetion of reality, or the projection of reality into the mind from which it can be observed. Since we all have different brains-minds-(detectors if you want to call them that), we perceive different realities. Pretty much like opinions. Is it cold out today? The temperature reads exactly 59F degrees. Some detect that as cold and some as warm, depending in your detector-brain-mind. So what is reality, the temperature on the thermometer or your perception of heat/cold? The common perception is that reality is the thermometer reading (objective reality), but as lucid dreams prefer to go by if it feels hot or cold (subjective reality), because in our dreams we don't read the temp we just feel hot, cold, falling, flying, running, and that is our reality. So if you fly in your dreams, I say you did fly in reality.

Reality is Truth...

4You know the way to the place where I am going." 5Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?" 6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." 8Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us." 9Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. 12I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. 14You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it. 15"If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever-- 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."
-John 14:4-21

That which never ceases to be....

Me.

I am reality

As are each of you.

It is the only thing that always exists.

alot of people are looking through the window the wrong way...most people are inside looking out, you should be outside lookin in.

You are seeing a slight reflection from the inside the reflection is that which is real, you.
Looking the other way, you see clearly and you see what real is.

...ummm I have absolutely NO clue where the hell that all came from..

*dont mind the crazy person*

*sigh* and I'm sober too...

Think of just "real".
I think Reality is just the collective existence of everything that is or can be perceived by senses.. this is all true on many different levels, but still, your mind makes dreaming real, as it does everything else.

Originally posted by azwe_echo
Think of just \"real\".
I think Reality is just the collective existence of everything that is or can be perceived by senses.. this is all true on many different levels, but still, your mind makes dreaming real, as it does everything else.

Ditto. Are you aware that you exsist? Then thats probably reality.
(Afterthought: Watch the final remade episode of Neon Genisis Evangelion, Althought it was slighty melincoly (?) I thought it was satausfing (????) And brought up some good ideas.

Reality is a non-existant word as everything you experience IS reality,are you not experiencing it right now??Doesnt it seem real,does it really matter you are sleeping?? There is a diffirence between the word "reality" and the word "actually happening" (well thats 2 words)

Name me a situation that is not actually reality, a dream? Well when you dream arnt you experiencing that right now? So doesnt that make it *real* ,does it really matter that your psysical body is not there,so its not "actually happening" but you experience it as if it is,and mentally suffer from all the consequenses(you become happy,sad,horny )

On the other die you could define Reality in a more rational way..everything you can see,touch,hear and smell..but those are not my words..

Not crazy at all Seri. I completely argree.

Originally posted by azwe_echo
your mind makes dreaming real, as it does everything else.

To me, what is real (truth) is that which never changes. "It" is eternal, unmovable, ever-present...

Things are real regardless of whether not my mind makes them so...

wait...I change all the time, are you saying I'm not real?

change is a constant.