Thread: Meditation...

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I experience that too guys, except with my back. So perhaps that's why I can't help you, LS, with your back hurting...because I don't have that problem since I ever-so-subtly let it rest...then I realize it's TOO at rest and straighten back up. Doesn't seem to disrupt me though... It all happens over quite a long period of time...

sit against a bed, to support your back. it works!

cheers.

i dont want to talk to you anymore, im afraid of what i might say,
ever time you come around i bite my tongue, cause blood in my mouth, beats blood on the ground.[/b]

Alright... Ive read the firs two pages of this thread only and I need to say a few things before I forget.

Meditation is not focusing on anything...It isnt relaxing your body...It isnt letting your thought kolidascope go crazy. All this is getting ready to do so.

Meditation is essentially (anybody who tells you different is either selling or was sold) the opposite of concentration. It is simply not thinking.

YOu are always thinking. Sleep day work... Meditation is simply not thinking. It exists to counter your unorganized mind. One will think all day, muddled thoughts un nessesary thoughts. and meditation is so that more of your intellectual energy is used correctly. Meditation is used best in contrast to extreme concentration. (like the flame and the circle concentration excersize.)

Think about it. You can only really enjoy a break after working hard. you only enjoy sleep after working hard. It is the universal law of contrasts.

I advise--- dont seek out someone to tell you how to meditate. just expirament and learn from the best teach in the universe. YOU.

I use meditation to have "good trips" without drugs hehe..

spinning in 5 diffirent directions which is actually impossible....flying sensations,floathing sensations, bounching(? hehe) sensantions, the energy within sensation..just how i call them..

I start my meditation as a zazen exersise but I eventually close my eyes and go trip, the drugs that aint bad for you, hehe

But there is actually also is the focus kind of meditation, for instance used to induce a dream

what you said Electrosonoids was exactly what i needed to hear. thanks.

cheers

the truth is...you could slit my throat, and with my one last gasping breath i would apologize for bleading on your shirt[/b]

When I meditate I feel like a bat; flying and knowing where eeverything is but no vision. I rarely have lucid dreams, but I try.

*dances around doing tha happy dance*

I had an AWSOME day today, the weather channel said it was gona rain all week here out in oregon, I open up the blinds to my hotel window

*cue angelic choir*

SUUUUUUNNNNNNNN

not a cloud in the sky...

I got to the Portland Japanese garden a little before they opened at 10am

I walked around shot 2 rolls of film and then sat down at the edge of the reflecting pond... I just sat and listned to the trickling waterfall near me and the rushing waterfall a little ways downstream. Over near the gift shop there were the big iron bells, that people would ring every once in a while, I love that sound, it carried right to and through me, I focused and felt like I could keep the resonation going... such a sweet sound.

I sat listened watched, and then a stone sitting out int he water caught my interest, I just watched it, looking at it and its reflection. I couldent take my eyes away from it.

After a time I came to realise the reflection is no less real than the stone itself, for if you were observing the stone from where I was sitting at that moment in time and took away the reflection, the stone would have to cease to be as well... One could not exist without the other at that moment in time, sure the ripples in the water could distort it a little but when the water was like glass the stone had no choice but to exist because its reflection existed... I sat and watched the stone for a while.

I would think every once in a while but for the most part...

I just was.. I was as much a part of that place as the stones the water and the trees and air.

I did not take my eyes off the stone, including its reflection for they are one in the same, even when people were standing across the pond pointing at me,
(i have good prephrial(sp) vision =)

After the reaslisation of the stone I then came to realise I did not care what the people thought anymore, that used to bother me alot for some reason, not now though. I listened to everything, took in as much as I could I heard one woman wondering if I was allright, her companion said sure hes fine, heard some younger people laughing, sayin that I was weird, and even started to freak out one of them hehe still didnt care I just kept my eyes on the stone...

Then something strange started to happen I also realised that people were starting to stop and watch ME! And they started to whisper to each other when they came near me or were near and noticed me, parents hushed their children and walked on quickly...

I found the change in their behavior odd, but through almost all of this time, I just was and was not mucking around in the quagmire that is my normal throught proceses.

I then began to think, I cant feel my legs.. its very cold, my ass had gone numb from the cold of the rock i was sitting on. I said ok lets go.. .But I couldent tear my eyes from that stone! I tried a few more times then just got quiet again and just was.

My head and then body began to feel weird.

I dont know how to explain it really but I guess the closest thing would be that I realised I started to ripple like the stones reflection.

Then finaly my eyes shot over to the waterfall int he distance, my lock with the stone now gone... I moved my head and it didnt want to move hehe.

Once I got my legs working I went over to the gift shop...

I was sitting there for 3 hours looking at that stone....

3 hours. thats some great concentration you got there.

wow.

Call it 'womens intuition', but I think I'm on to something here.
Temporaryism has been the 'Black Plague' and the 'Jesus' of our age.[/b]

Whoa, not bad, thats right, ignore the fools, hehe

They werent fools perse, just uninformed, people dont see that kinda thing I think often, kinda makes them wonder.

Keeps em on their toes hehe

And after a while they started to show respect in trying to be quiet, it didnt matter if they spoke or not though, they passing by speaking is no different from the little chickadees that kept buzzing me chattering to each other and sitting on the rocks near me wondering what the heck i was doing as well hehe. I love little birds they are so goofy, and the quizzical looks they give you are priceless.