Thread: WILDs are scary! :(

aww.. I would just go with it if I could. See what happens. Even if it feels scary, that's how you overcome it.. By facing it I'm sure eventually you'll grow familiar with it and it won't freak you out so much anymore.

Although an experienced WILDer would probably give you a better answer, as I'm yet to manage a full "WILD". All I know is what it feels like when the HI, vibrations and stuff kick in, and they don't scare me anymore as they used to the first couple of times. But I still find myself thinking "wooo is it working?!" everytime it happens so naturally it fails

But I try to face it when it happens, but everytime, I just chicken out at the last moment! Oh well.

And you should try to just go with it as good as you can. Focus on the images that have probably popped up in your head as good as you can.

See, I know how to do it, but it freaks me out too much to actually do it myself.

It's not the WILD that is scary, it's the Sleep Paralysis... And I agree: this can be very scary!!

The only advise I can give, is that you'll have to learn to truly believe that nothing is happening to you. It takes some practise (and a lot of scary nights, unfortunately) but you can get over it and really enter a dream

Originally Posted by Line

Am I the only one who is freaked out by WILDs? It's unfair that I can have them even when not meaning to, and others are struggling to have them and would love my "problem". Is there any way to overcome this fear? because they have so much potential.

I would think that a spontaneous WILD would be scarier than a WILD you were intentionally trying to have.. simply because you're expecting the symptoms/body reactions when you're "trying" to WILD.

I can only advise you to tough it out.. to breathe steadily (if not a tad slower) and to focus not on your body's reactions but perhaps on the things you'd like to do once lucid.

Also, try to remember how many more LDs you'll be able to have once you conquer your fear of WILDing!

Ok... So I've tried to be brave and face them...

I'm still a chicken.

Just an hour ago, I had a lucid dream. I was walking around in the area around my workplace, and I suddenly remembered the lucid task, but at the same time, my dream faded quickly. But for the first time, I remembered the rubbing hands trick, and I rubbed my hands like crazy. Unfortunately, I was so close to waking that I had no dream body anymore, and I woke up. But this rubbing seemed to have some sort of effect, seconds after I woke up, my body was vibrating, and I got a strong surge of goosebumps. I was literally just ONE second away from entering a dream (without losing consciousness at all) but I HAD to freak out and open my eyes, ruining the whole thing.

RAAWRR!! I'm so jealous!!

I love WILDs but they are usually random, I've only had a couple when actually trying.

I can see how it can be scary, but I guess I'm just used to really weird feelings like that and just go with it. For me I usually experience what you do, the tingly head and everything. And then I usually free fall for however long I feel like then appear somewhere. I think I'm used to the feeling because I had a bunch of dreams where I was free falling before my first WILD, and that feeling is incredible. I can feel myself going faster and faster and my body tingles more and more.

It's not fair! I wish I KNEW how to do it, and not just have to wait for it to randomly happen! To me it's an amazing feeling, but at first I was worried, but I reassured myself as it was happening that it's just my mind and I should go along for the ride.

It's amazing though, I really hope you overcome your fear! Lucid dreams and especially WILDs are incredible experiences that I wish everyone could have. But consider yourself lucky, theres a lot of people who would do almost anything to have your ability!

I hope you overcome your fear and experience what is in my opinion, the most amazing feeling ever!

Originally Posted by yay

RAAWRR!! I'm so jealous!!

I love WILDs but they are usually random, I've only had a couple when actually trying.

I can see how it can be scary, but I guess I'm just used to really weird feelings like that and just go with it. For me I usually experience what you do, the tingly head and everything. And then I usually free fall for however long I feel like then appear somewhere. I think I'm used to the feeling because I had a bunch of dreams where I was free falling before my first WILD, and that feeling is incredible. I can feel myself going faster and faster and my body tingles more and more.

It's not fair! I wish I KNEW how to do it, and not just have to wait for it to randomly happen! To me it's an amazing feeling, but at first I was worried, but I reassured myself as it was happening that it's just my mind and I should go along for the ride.

It's amazing though, I really hope you overcome your fear! Lucid dreams and especially WILDs are incredible experiences that I wish everyone could have. But consider yourself lucky, theres a lot of people who would do almost anything to have your ability!

I hope you overcome your fear and experience what is in my opinion, the most amazing feeling ever!

I know, there is so much potential in this! I'm not even sure why it freaks me out, because I know what's going on, it's harmless, and I've done it before (at least once while keeping my consciousness).

Who wants to hold my hand while I WILD?

I know it can be scary going into SP like that, but try to stay calm and remember that you go through it every night during normal dreams. I actually find it sort of relaxing now, though I've never actually had a WILD. I came pretty close one time, but I'd have to call it a WID because I didn't become lucid. Stupid for not RCing.

what is so scary about sp ?

Originally Posted by roguext22

what is so scary about sp ?

Well, I've never had a SP and knowing it, but the thought of them doesn't scare me like WILDs. I know SPs can be scary to some people.

Originally Posted by roguext22

what is so scary about sp ?

Something about not being able to move may have something to do with it.

Give the beginners a break man.

A piece of advice from an experienced WILD-er.

Yes, WILDS can be scary, but then you don't expect passing from one reality to another to be a walk in the park, do you?

There are, however, a few points that you should consider before your next attempt:

1) First and foremost, whatever arises in the intermediary state is not real. Keep this in mind when you're crossing the borderline between the waking and dreaming - the scary phenomena that you're experiencing aren't real and cannot harm you.

2) The fear that arises during the conscious transition between waking and sleeping isn't always caused by the hallucinations - sometimes it simply strikes the dreamer out of nowhere, without any apparent reason. When it happens, the only thing that you can do is to hold on. If you really want to get to the other side, you will.

3) Sometimes the transition itself is very smooth, but the reality of the environment can trick you into believing that you've really traveled into an unknown place and won't be able to get back. Wrong again - even if you'll emerge on the lonely island in the middle of the ocean, your real body is resting wherever you fell asleep. The visionary state usually won't last for long before you'll get back, so take your time and explore. Even the longest dream/vision comes to an end sooner or later and you wake up in the real world.


Hope that helps.

A little update: It's currently 4:20 AM, and I've finally "dared" to have a spontaneous WILD, I actually had no choice, it was WILD or no sleep. After I went to bed, I felt my body fall asleep before my consciousness, and I think I spent a lot of time in the state between sleep and waking before I woke up again. I first had a bit of a WILD where I was fully aware that I was about to enter a lucid dream; at first I fought it because I still can't get used to the vibrating and tingling, not to mention the moments between awake and lucid dream. I then realised that I had no choice because this state wouldn't stop, so I finally gave in, lost consciousness, and had a kind of short but very vivid lucid dream about a fawn in the grass in some mountains.

I woke up again, and AGAIN started to spontaneously WILD, I tried to fight it again, but it wouldn't stop, so I gave in again. This time the dream scene materialised before me, without me losing consciousness in between. I think I'll never get used to that feeling... I was in a bathroom, running water in a tub. I was fully lucid of course, and the dream had a vividness and realism that I've just never had before. I put my hand in the water, it felt like real water, and I could feel the heat from it. The dream didn't even last for a minute, because my awe woke me up. I didn't even have time to try to keep it.

I haven't slept since then, so I'm in the REM cycle now. I assume that I'll spontaneously WILD again once I go back to bed. I just couldn't sleep right away again, so I decided to log on DV.

Well, wish me luck!

Originally Posted by Luminous

Well, wish me luck!

Good luck .. and don't fight the feeling!

Sweet lucids!

Wilds are as bad as many think they are. Most actually get scared by the SP, and the HI.

But Wilding is a great lucid technique.

YAY WILD.

Yay I can say something that no one else has yet although I can't take credit for its message cause i think clarity came up with it in her wild technique. As a wilder something that helped me over the scaryness of sp (other than what everyone else said) was that I would imagine myself flying toward the dreamscape which would always be like a portal in appearance and very peaceful. As I was flying I would go through barriers and as I went through them they would rattle me and make noise and all the other things that accompanied SP but I realized that they could never hurt me for they were just force fields and I needed to get through them to enter the dream. This helped me because it gave my mind a reason and for what was happening and kept it busy to help calm me down, I hope it helps you.

Well, I ended up pretty much passing out, but I had lots and lots of lucid dreams, just not spontaneous WILDs. I drank ginger tea last night before bedtime, and will again tonight, just to see if it's affecting my spontaneous WILDs. Though they scare me less now.

And it's about time I start a dream journal again.

Ahh, I love the vibrations. It's always like that at first, it's a new feeling. Just relax next time around and remember one thing:

The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself. So instead of fearing, go into your heart and accept it as your own.

Best of luck

I've had more spontaneous WILDs after my last post here... I've managed to go through with some of them, but I usually still chicken out. Now, they seem to happen every time I sleep more than 9 hours. After 9 hours, I wake up, and when I try to fall back asleep, it happens. It actually happened like 30 minutes ago, and I chickened out again. But they happen more than once a week. Aaah!

There is no point chickening out when there is nothing at all to be afraid of.

You just have to keep remembering that.

what gets me are the sensations of people being in your room.and i HATE auditory noises that come from SP D: even though i tell myself theyre not real they still FEEL real :/

I haven't succeeded in making it to the transition phase yet , but the audio, visual and sometimes physical sensations while attemping to have a WILD, are quite scary! Gunshots, loud snapping and cracking noises, the feeling of getting kicked in the back lol, extremly bright flashes and so on.
It's the fun kind of scary though, like rollercoaster scary I actually love it, that's why I don't feel too bad when I fail and drift off to an empty sleep.

Maybe try starting with a DEILD instead? The SP lasts way less and are easier to get into for some people. If it's the dream itself, then you just need to practice. I got a bit spooked my first few times, too.

I really want to WILD but have a fear of the unknown. Like someone else said about the presences. I'm not too afraid about the buzzing and shit but I'm scared of feeling like there is prensences in my room and that i'm paralysed and can't do anything.