Thread: Lucid Acid Trips?

i think same as you. i think that a thing in LSD just make the LDing better, i don't remember what substance it was or what it was doing, but almost all other drugs jst made it worse.

With regards to Xallie's response, I've heard that an herb called Calea Zacatechichi makes lucid dreaming easier, and dreams overall more vivid. It supposedly tastes horrible (as a tea), but the good thing is that it doesn't affect you much while awake, except for possibly some calming effects.

With regards to drug use within dreams, well I'm not sure. I haven't done drugs of any type in dream or in reality. I rarely even take asprin

I'm not sure you understand how lsd works, it doesn't make you hallucinate, and even at high doses, I would still consider the average person lucid, albeit in an altered state.
As far as lucid dreaming as a skill affecting your trip, it would be useful for preventing negative experience, and possibly in using lsd as an introspective tool for personal growth and change. It'd be similar to meditation.
And for lucid dreaming being enhanced by acid, well good luck falling asleep before you come down, and even then, good luck falling asleep any time soon after.

There's this one drug called Salvia Divinorum (spelling?) it's legal, and it gives you trips that last 15 minutes, but distort time extremely. People that smoke high doses report having lived the entire lives of other people, day by day for the whole life!

I've wondered if you did that and became lucid, a 15 minute lucid that lasts years! That would be pretty fun. I know people that have done it though, and report it as shitty hallucinogen, but they all smoked very little.

My experience of Salvia is that it basically restarts consciousness--immediately after you get an adequate dose into you, you lose all awareness of who you are, where you are, what are things surrounding you, and even how to move your body. From there, you relearn from scratch until memory starts to return. It's very unique and not particularly pleasant--the only recreational value is in watching others do it. If you're interested, there are dozens of trip reports on Youtube.

Oh... well that sucks.

So your experience isn't of hallucinations but of... dumbass-ness?

Originally Posted by Stephent91

Oh... well that sucks.

So your experience isn't of hallucinations but of... dumbass-ness?

Kind of yes, but I've also heard of people having extensive visualization experiences with their eyes closed, and even eyes open, the alienness of the your surroundings is kind of hallucinatory. But again, it's more a shamanic drug, not of any recreational value--you're not going to do anything on Salvia. There's a reason people aren't doing it every weekend, even though it's legal and readily available most places.

I've heard that you can take acid in a dream and it will be trippy, but as long as you are thinking that you are "dream high" otherwise it goes away.

Originally Posted by Idolfan

If you become like some ulta-badass-lucid-dream-guru-masta-guy do you reckon it would be possible to control drug induced hallucinogenic trips? I've never tried acid anyway so don't get worried, but that would be a really cool thing to do!

For a short time.. But, drugs taken externally, as opposed to being distributed by the body.. ..can do more harm than good. But, it can also do more good than harm. Just mind the risk. And know that the body is all the "external" "drug" you will ever really need.. Just eat right food, and varied!

Originally Posted by Stephent91

There's this one drug called Salvia Divinorum (spelling?) it's legal, and it gives you trips that last 15 minutes, but distort time extremely. People that smoke high doses report having lived the entire lives of other people, day by day for the whole life!

I've wondered if you did that and became lucid, a 15 minute lucid that lasts years! That would be pretty fun. I know people that have done it though, and report it as shitty hallucinogen, but they all smoked very little.

Correct spelling. But, it is not needed to smoke it. Most that smoke it does not know how to do it. And do not really get any of the Salvinorin A in their system. Only the devoted or the lucky ones, knows how.

Smoking is intense, and few recall any of it, though... Chewing is nicer, but I sure will not promote using it. It is not a drug to mess with, as your freinds probably could confirm..

That being said, I have had dreams like 'those people's' trip, not forced like you seem to describe it being for them. But, like living in "paralell alternative realities".
After waking up from 'that' "dream", I could not come to any other thoughts; that the life I live here is real, and I dreamt I was in another reality where I had another life that I live there, dreaming I was here..

Later I found it is not only "two" though...

I babbel, I could go on and on.. :p

Originally Posted by Jonathan

I've heard that you can take acid in a dream and it will be trippy, but as long as you are thinking that you are "dream high" otherwise it goes away.

I find drugs in dreams have the expected visual effects, but without the altered thinking. That is something you can't really create for yourself.

Salvia can be a great experience, but at the same time can be very uncomfortable. The perception of a different reality, and multiple layers of reality is common, as is the distortion of time. Then again uncontrollable laughing, or not remembering a thing can also happen.
If you're going to try it, try it at a low potency, and work your way up over time, and have somebody to trip sit. Oh, and be sitting down, you're way less likely to do something harmful or embarrassing if you're in a comfortable seat.

I have smoked salvia 10x, and it was the most horrible thing i have done in my whole life!
I smoked it, and suddently forgot EVERYTHING i had ever knew. I did not know that i was a human. And the worst part was that i was stuck in time, but each timeframe elapsed the other and i was lying like that for years before i one day just snapped out of it and thinked something like "This is so wrong, i know i havent been like this forever but i cant remember anything else" (thinked it with sounds, didnt know how to talk or think). So i tried to get up and out of the loop but i couldnt because every time i got up i was on the ground again and looping there. So i tried to run all i could and then i got into a spiral and suddently all i could see was total blackness, and 3 books that were turning pages. In the pages was what i actually saw in real life but i didnt know that, it was like beeing a video-camera or something. And then my friend stopped me from running and got me out of the trip.

You really cant believe how intense and horrible it was, and this whole thing lasted for 3 minutes in real life. There was also many other things that happened but i cant explain it.

Wow, oscepott! That is horrible!

Sounds like some shitty sci-fi/avant-garde plot. Well, that pretty much deters any of my fascination.

Well, i dont regret doing it. I think everyone should do it one time a life but not more.
I want to do it again, but i simply have so much fear that i cant. But it was wonderful in one way, and horrible in another.

An experience.

That's why it doesn't completelly diminish it.

I actually have pretty good experiences on Salvia... There was one time when Windows Media Player was loaded when my room was dark, and you know how it's got swirling colors... well I tripped HARD. The colors slowly came out of the screen, took over my entire field of vision, and I just began to see so many things (and became so many things) inside of these patterns. Stairway to Heaven was playing, and it was a beautiful experience. When I was coming down the amount of euphoria I was feeling after that was amazing. I could have stayed in that state forever.

I tried it again (using Windows Media Player as a visual aid) over the summer, but I didn't get very far, but the amount I saw in the patterns was pretty cool.

Though to the OP, it's nothing like a lucid dream. You have no control in a SD trip like you do in a lucid. Lucid environments are also MUCH more stable.

Hey everybody. For all those interested in experiencing salvia, please show this plant the respect that it deserves! Salvia is not a party drug, and all honesty is not something I would describe as "fun". It has its uses, and can be great for meditation, but if you or a friend would like to try salvia please read this faq:

sage-wisdom.org/faq, and pass it on as well. Salvia is crazy stuff, good luck!

I've done acid and ecstasy on the beaches of spain in a dream once. It was excellent. I remember swimming and feeling waves of euphoria and laying on rocks just seeing amazing colors and swirls and everything. It was quite similar to the real effects of the drugs. Very vivid, too.

Originally Posted by oscepott

I have smoked salvia 10x, and it was the most horrible thing i have done in my whole life!
I smoked it, and suddently forgot EVERYTHING i had ever knew. I did not know that i was a human. And the worst part was that i was stuck in time, but each timeframe elapsed the other and i was lying like that for years before i one day just snapped out of it and thinked something like "This is so wrong, i know i havent been like this forever but i cant remember anything else" (thinked it with sounds, didnt know how to talk or think). So i tried to get up and out of the loop but i couldnt because every time i got up i was on the ground again and looping there. So i tried to run all i could and then i got into a spiral and suddently all i could see was total blackness, and 3 books that were turning pages. In the pages was what i actually saw in real life but i didnt know that, it was like beeing a video-camera or something. And then my friend stopped me from running and got me out of the trip.

You really cant believe how intense and horrible it was, and this whole thing lasted for 3 minutes in real life. There was also many other things that happened but i cant explain it.

Did you say it felt like YEARS? That sound as scary as anything, forgetting how to think. I rely fully on words and colours to think, I don't even see how it's possible to to think without these... I also have synaesthesia and I don't think I would even be able to hear or read without colours; that just sounds terrible what happened to you... but you said it was a high dose, you wouldn't expect that to happen on just any trip would you?

Using drugs in dreams... I've done this because it's a re-occuring dream theme for me. It really works and acid is the best. I've also smoke and done weed but they were based on my current experiences of them and they aren't that good. I've only been a bit stoned, not used marijuana to it's full "potential". That's a really good idea, I'll make it a lucid task but I'm still trying to contact my higher self or whatever.

What I actually meant in my question was can control over real life trips be attained considering you have skill with lucid dreams. If I was in real life for example and I wanted to see Tenacious D having a rock off with the devil outside my house, could I make it happen. Could I hallucinate anything I wanted? I've heard of people who've done this but they did it on oxygen deprivation, obviously a chemical drug might confuse things. People have told me acid and shroom trips are uncontrollable, but are they only as uncontrollable as dreams?

I took 3 BIG hits of salvia 10x, i really did not know how to think. It was like i had never existed before and came to this horrible place that i was stuck in for eternity. BUT i forgot to say that it first felt like i was in a coma for like 3 years, then it was like i woke up but i was like a baby so i did not actually know anything and that felt like years but my mind was not at place then, so it felt like seconds in another way. And suddently my mind thinked (Was not really thinking, this was my instincts thinking or something) that i needed to get away or something. And i ran towards the sea, so i almost ran to the sea and could have drowned if my buddy wasnt there. In one way it felt like 20 seconds and in one way it felt like an eternity.

But if you are into spiritual things or drugs or things like that, i think it could be a special thing for most people to do it one time (i was a little anxious that summer i did it, so that can be the answer to why i had such a bad trip). BUT im not saying you should just because i say so and i dont want people to harm themselves or anything, but ive read that its one of the most unharmful drugs. And ive heard that you have super vivid dreams when you smoke it, but i didnt remember my dreams then so i do not know that

I know what LSD does MrBreelzy. pretty sure i know cuz a friend of mine talk about how it was for hours =P.
Torrol, you're right. the Calea Z, the herb also known as the dream herb i think it is a good herb for dreaming, and i don't take any asperin or medicine stuff either =P.
Took some magic mushrooms in dreams but that just made me wake up perhaps cuz i don't know what it is like, don't know.

The one thing I want to do in my waking life is LSD, I have tried so hard to find some but is damn near impossible where I live.... I miss Florida so much... next time I go back I am doing LSD, for sure.

I'd love to experience something tangible in the waking life that other people can't.

Originally Posted by Xallie

I know what LSD does MrBreelzy. pretty sure i know cuz a friend of mine talk about how it was for hours =P.
Torrol, you're right. the Calea Z, the herb also known as the dream herb i think it is a good herb for dreaming, and i don't take any asperin or medicine stuff either =P.
Took some magic mushrooms in dreams but that just made me wake up perhaps cuz i don't know what it is like, don't know.

Trust me though, LSD doesn't make you hallucinate, even though people categorize it as a hallucinogen. It makes you perceive things differently and have visual distortions. Illusions are not the same as hallucinations. Sorry for splitting hairs, if I come off like a jerk, I can't help but be anal.