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      Anyone ever false Lucid?

      Example... You perform a personal reality check, and it just so happens to pass. Then, you do something retarded thinking you are in a dream.
      Once upon a time a disciple went to his guru and asked him, 'Guru, what is life?' To which the guru replies, after much thinking, 'My Son, life is like a fountain.' The disciple is outraged. 'Is that the best you can do? Is that what you call wisdom?' 'All right,' says the guru; 'don't get excited. So maybe it's not like a fountain.'

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      I can feel the dream being a dream when in a Lucid. Unless you go psycho. But then it's not a lucid dreaming issue anymore, it's more of an awake dreaming issue.
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      I know what you mean. I had several. This dream thought gives me immortality but I stick to the script and don't do anything of what I would like to do in a lucid dream. It's almost as it's more interesting to do what the dream wants you to do, like fighting or something.

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      No, since all of my lucids began with me realizing it was a dream before doing a RC. A DC did, however, hit me in the head with one of those studio cameras for some reason, then I lost lucidity.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dash View Post
      No, since all of my lucids began with me realizing it was a dream before doing a RC. A DC did, however, hit me in the head with one of those studio cameras for some reason, then I lost lucidity.
      haha, I would have killed that mofo. Anyway, this is true for me, too. I don't do reality checks, so I don't ever remember the instant I became lucid. I have had multiple dreams that are so realistic and vivid that have a life changing storyline. A couple of times, I actually believed these happened....leads to a big arguement with myself. Makes me feel schizophrenic.
      Once upon a time a disciple went to his guru and asked him, 'Guru, what is life?' To which the guru replies, after much thinking, 'My Son, life is like a fountain.' The disciple is outraged. 'Is that the best you can do? Is that what you call wisdom?' 'All right,' says the guru; 'don't get excited. So maybe it's not like a fountain.'

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      Usually for me its just that I have a moment of clarity and then fall right back down into a lower awareness and have a normal dream. Lucidity isn't always easy to maintain.

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      Question Newbiness

      Please forgive my newbiness, but what's a "DC"?

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      Quote Originally Posted by StarryDreamer View Post
      Please forgive my newbiness, but what's a "DC"?
      It stands for dream character. It basically applies to anyone who is you in the dream.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      It stands for dream character. It basically applies to anyone who is you in the dream.
      Thank for the quick reply! And OUCH...even in a dream, that's GOTTA hurt!

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      I false lucid dream often.

      In fact, I have so many false lucid dreams it is a major sticky point of mine. Often times I will be trying to do a WILD and have already reached a deep state of trance with my body totally asleep, even my eyes being disconnected so I am even past HI, and then I will dream that I am trying to LD. This is what I call a false lucid dream. The problem arises as mentioned that I am often afraid to do reality checks. For instance, sometimes I have achieved lucidity but I am just dreaming that I am in my bed lying down. If I would just roll out or grab my nose and try to breath or a number of other reality checks, I would know that I am lucid. Instead, I think about doing a reality check and decide against it as I am not sure if I am lucid or not. I am afraid that if I am not lucid than I will ruin the work I have put into getting in to trance state. So as a result of being afraid of doing a RC, I then in my lucid dream decide to go farther into trance to have a lucid dream in my lucid dream. It works through too. Sometimes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jefftmcdonald View Post
      In fact, I have so many false lucid dreams it is a major sticky point of mine. Often times I will be trying to do a WILD and have already reached a deep state of trance with my body totally asleep, even my eyes being disconnected so I am even past HI, and then I will dream that I am trying to LD. This is what I call a false lucid dream. The problem arises as mentioned that I am often afraid to do reality checks. For instance, sometimes I have achieved lucidity but I am just dreaming that I am in my bed lying down. If I would just roll out or grab my nose and try to breath or a number of other reality checks, I would know that I am lucid. Instead, I think about doing a reality check and decide against it as I am not sure if I am lucid or not. I am afraid that if I am not lucid than I will ruin the work I have put into getting in to trance state. So as a result of being afraid of doing a RC, I then in my lucid dream decide to go farther into trance to have a lucid dream in my lucid dream. It works through too. Sometimes.
      The best way to fix this is to just do a reality check whenever it occurs to you. For me, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt when I am awake. There is no question in my mind. If you wonder enough to think to do a reality check and its not just out of habit then you are probably dreaming. There is a chance of doing one too soon while you are still partially awake (enough so that even if you are dreaming your real body will still move) but if you have enough of these 'close call' failures then soon you will learn what the difference feels like and where the line is.

      Also, I've found that just intending to do an RC or rolling out or standing up is enough sometimes. If I'm awake the intention doesn't lead to actual motion and if I'm dreaming it does.

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      I do RCs all the time during the day, particularly if I have just been sitting down or something in case I dozed off (which happens every now and again)

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      a friend and I were at his Uncle's house hanging out. We are both into lucid dreaming and well aware of all types of reality checks and stuff. His Uncle was a unique and individual guy and something i experienced triggered me to do a digital clock RC. I looked over at a stereo and the digits on the display were all messed up, they looked like they were as if in a dream. I pointed it out to my friend and we both started laughing. Needless to say, i did another RC and it failed
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      The best way to fix this is to just do a reality check whenever it occurs to you. For me, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt when I am awake. There is no question in my mind. If you wonder enough to think to do a reality check and its not just out of habit then you are probably dreaming. There is a chance of doing one too soon while you are still partially awake (enough so that even if you are dreaming your real body will still move) but if you have enough of these 'close call' failures then soon you will learn what the difference feels like and where the line is.

      Also, I've found that just intending to do an RC or rolling out or standing up is enough sometimes. If I'm awake the intention doesn't lead to actual motion and if I'm dreaming it does.
      Thanks for the tip. I think if I work through a couple close calls then I will be abel to know better when I have reached the point of LD.

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      I made a thread like this a while back...you may like to check it out

      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=46843

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      Quote Originally Posted by CiD View Post
      Example... You perform a personal reality check, and it just so happens to pass. Then, you do something retarded thinking you are in a dream.
      Nope, but I keep alert. My greatest fear is that that will happen and I'll end up trying to fly through a fifth storey window.

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      I've read some pretty bad stories about false lucids on here. Tip: You really, really shouldn't be a drug user and a LDer.
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      Quote Originally Posted by james_jlc View Post
      I made a thread like this a while back...you may like to check it out

      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=46843
      Yea, I figured I wouldn't have been the first person with this idea. I only searched false lucid on the search and something else about reality checks. I didn't find anything.
      Once upon a time a disciple went to his guru and asked him, 'Guru, what is life?' To which the guru replies, after much thinking, 'My Son, life is like a fountain.' The disciple is outraged. 'Is that the best you can do? Is that what you call wisdom?' 'All right,' says the guru; 'don't get excited. So maybe it's not like a fountain.'

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      LOL @ the guy who jumped up in his classroom thinking he was dreaming. That's pretty embarassing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lahan View Post
      a friend and I were at his Uncle's house hanging out. We are both into lucid dreaming and well aware of all types of reality checks and stuff. His Uncle was a unique and individual guy and something i experienced triggered me to do a digital clock RC. I looked over at a stereo and the digits on the display were all messed up, they looked like they were as if in a dream. I pointed it out to my friend and we both started laughing. Needless to say, i did another RC and it failed
      haha. i can never find a digital clocks in my dreams. does it just look all swirly and skewed?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Stevehattan View Post
      I've read some pretty bad stories about false lucids on here. Tip: You really, really shouldn't be a drug user and a LDer.
      shit yeah thats a good point. i can just imagine that as some amazing news headline- some twat on shrooms end up robbing a bank or jumping out of a window or something because they think its a dream

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      I've had a few 'false' lucids when i started luciding, on Xmas Eve/early Xmas morn, and, I suppose the dream I had a few nights ago where I was a 'dream helper' to a friend of mine might also count as one, too. Their kinda intresting, and seem to last longer than normal lucids...although, in NORMAL lucids, however, you have more control! Which kinda make's them more fun, anyways...Even though flying isn't as easy for me yet (though I will try to Superman styal soon...). xP
      Look's like I've FINALLY joined up. o.O (i've been reading here under 'guest' a lot)

      I don't know how active i'll be, but i've joined up to talk about lucid dreaming and stuff and hopefully make some new friends through it. XD

      Soo i've had this many LDs uhhh a lot...maybe even close to 20 now! I might count later, all I know is I had 2 DEILDs soo far, too. haha

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      That's never happened to me, and unless I'm already delirious or something I doubt it ever will. Normally without even doing a reality check I can sort of feel a dream-like haze around me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by lizmunchausen View Post
      shit yeah thats a good point. i can just imagine that as some amazing news headline- some twat on shrooms end up robbing a bank or jumping out of a window or something because they think its a dream
      I'd love seeing that one being argued in court.
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      Quote Originally Posted by lizmunchausen View Post
      shit yeah thats a good point. i can just imagine that as some amazing news headline- some twat on shrooms end up robbing a bank or jumping out of a window or something because they think its a dream
      a friend's personal experience...

      In college, a student in a dorm directly above her own jumped out the window and died from the fall. He was on PCP and believed he could fly.
      Once upon a time a disciple went to his guru and asked him, 'Guru, what is life?' To which the guru replies, after much thinking, 'My Son, life is like a fountain.' The disciple is outraged. 'Is that the best you can do? Is that what you call wisdom?' 'All right,' says the guru; 'don't get excited. So maybe it's not like a fountain.'

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