"touching" WILD method

**dream kitten** · 02-09-2008 06:54 PM

I learned this method from a friend a few nights ago and have been using it every time I go to sleep. It seems to work quite well for me and I hope others will find it useful as well.

Normally, I try to have DILDs but those have been very unsuccessful for me... they are too random and inconsistent and I have to get really lucky with the reality check. But DILDs were the only ones I could get as rare as they are.

I have also been actively trying to astral project, which is how I learned this technique and I find that it resembles a WILD method a lot. It has vastly decreased the amount of time for me to get in that "trance" stage. Oh, and this technique is also mentioned in Robert Bruce's book on OBEs/Astral projection/lucid dreaming.

To understand this technique, first realize, your hands are intimately aware of each part of your body. If you had your eyes closed, and I said touch your knee... touch your nose... you would be able to point it out easily. When you want to touch a part of your body... your "awareness" immediately focuses on that part of the body.

To do the meditation exercise, as you are trying to fall asleep, pretend you have imaginary hands. They can be located anywhere... if it helps, they can be detached. It doesn't matter either way. You will IMAGINE that your hands are going to touch a part of the body, but don't actually touch it.

The main point of this is to have you be aware of your body physically and to keep your mind from wandering and having 'emotional' thoughts. Do this part by part... imagine your hands are touching your toes... go up to your feet, legs, thighs, butt, etc, all the way up to your head... try to feel your hands going into your armpits... your neck... just try to feel awareness in every part of the body the best you can. "Touch" each part of your body. Feel it being touched. Anticipate the location that is going to be touched. Do this exercise while taking deep breaths... it helps if you also try to imagine that with each inhale, you are sucking in pure white energy that is cleansing your body... and with each exhale, negativity and black gunk is coming out. Visualize it the best you can. Try to believe it.

With practice, it will become easier. Try to block out any other thoughts and just focus on the touching exercise and don't move your body at all, except breathing. Eventually, you will feel your body becoming deeply relaxed.... becoming numb... falling asleep... deeper and deeper... you may realize that your body is starting to go through the natural process of falling asleep. At this point, it is easy to lose your concentration and actually fall asleep, which you will if you stop thinking. If you can maintain your "awareness" while your body is falling asleep, you will consciously experience sleep paralysis and I'll stop here because I'm sure you guys know the rest.

Normally for me, this rapidly puts me in a trance stage and I will start to get the hypnagogic hallucinations (usually consists of random orbs of light, swirls, crackly and zappy sounds for me), followed by an intense falling sensation. I'm not a very experienced lucid dreamer, as I tend to get impatient with things like these and break my concentration, but it's improving!

Good luck and happy dreams!

**Vegan** · 02-10-2008 03:27 AM

Thanks for the technique, I'll try that sometime.

**virusexe** · 02-10-2008 03:59 AM

Ill give it a try tonight.

**Clairity** · 02-10-2008 05:38 AM

dream kitten, this sounds like a great method! Thanks for sharing!

**Dizko** · 02-12-2008 09:45 PM

Ill try it tonight =]

**psychology student** · 02-12-2008 11:42 PM

I will also try it.

**MrDamon** · 02-13-2008 03:16 AM

Robert Bruce's book is filled with lots of excellent tips and info that is really useful for WILDing as well as projecting.. I still have the E-Book version of it for free if any one wants it..

PM for the link

**unseen wombat** · 02-13-2008 04:03 PM

I downloaded the book too, and I don't believe most of it, but when I tried the exercise where you try to feel the tip of a pencil scratching circles on your thumb knuckle, I definitely felt exactly what he said I would feel. I'm not going to discount his techniques, even if I think his explanations may be off.

I really need to read more of the book. It's just so looooong though, and hard to find the actually useful information. Thanks for posting the technique.

**Vex Kitten** · 02-13-2008 05:43 PM

That is a very interesting method. I'm definatly going to come back to this and give it a try when the conditions to lucid dream are right.

Thanks for posting it.

**bias** · 02-14-2008 03:17 AM

Gonna try this in exactly 10 min...

I'm having the longest streak with no lucid dreams ever, so hope this will change things.

Although I know the reason for not having any LD's, was job/stress related which hopefully is over now.

Anyways, I'll post tomorrow if this was successful!

**juroara** · 02-14-2008 04:59 AM

lately Ive been interested in trying to 'touch' something you imagine as a way to help induce more vivid HIs

I kinda like this idea too though

**Iamerik** · 02-14-2008 09:16 PM

Interesting. I'm going to give this a try!

**mez** · 02-14-2008 11:19 PM

I dont see the point in this method at all. WILDS are really easy if done correctly. It sounds to me like you are trying to WILD while going to sleep at night time. Making it all the way through to REM sleep while awake in trance is a huge waste of time and effort... WILD after a WBTB or WILD after you wake up from a dream in the morning (thats when I do it and it gets results easily). You dont want to be wasting time focusing on "awareness" of different parts of your body... you want to be focusing on the Hypnagogic imagarey you see before you, paying close attention to detail until it finally congeals into a dream and you're inside of it.

In short, wake up during your REM period and just pay close attention to detail on the HI until it congeals into a dream. If you do it right it should take no more than a minute. It usually takes me about 30 seconds to WILD. Theres really no need to spend tonnes of time in trance...

**Susceptor** · 02-15-2008 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by mez

I dont see the point in this method at all. WILDS are really easy if done correctly.

And yet...

Originally Posted by dream kitten

I have also been actively trying to astral project, which is how I learned this technique and I find that it resembles a WILD method a lot.

Amiright?

**mez** · 02-15-2008 07:00 AM

not really? although I dont fully understand what you're getting at there. Dream kitten says it resembles "a" WILD method. Not an easy one. When WILD'ing there is absolutely no need to go into a trance. I've tried astral projection and I know the method she's talking about and what goes along with it. So having experienced both I can say WILD (if you do it like i do) is nothing nothing like this.

**Susceptor** · 02-15-2008 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by mez

not really? although I dont fully understand what you're getting at there. Dream kitten says it resembles "a" WILD method. Not an easy one. When WILD'ing there is absolutely no need to go into a trance. I've tried astral projection and I know the method she's talking about and what goes along with it. So having experienced both I can say WILD (if you do it like i do) is nothing nothing like this.

I was trying to say that Dream Kitten said she was trying a method for astral projection, and not really focusing it on the idea of a WILD, saying it "resembled" a WILD method, not actually being one.

**mez** · 02-15-2008 11:56 PM

Ah yes I see your point there. This is a lucid dreaming forum though... has anyone had success WILDing with this method? just out of curiosity.

**wisp** · 02-16-2008 05:14 AM

I've had success doing something similar. Picturing two extra hands in front of my eyes, trying to see them, clap them, until they felt real. When the touch and the looks seemed totally real, i was dreaming.

That was one of the very few WILDs i've gotten (i've had tons of DILDs).

Whether Kitten's post is a WILD technique (in which case this post belongs to "Attaining lucidity") or not, i'll try it in 5 minutes.

Have a good night. ^_^

**mez** · 02-16-2008 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by wisp

I've had success doing something similar. Picturing two extra hands in front of my eyes, trying to see them, clap them, until they felt real. When the touch and the looks seemed totally real, i was dreaming.

That was one of the very few WILDs i've gotten (i've had tons of DILDs).

Whether Kitten's post is a WILD technique (in which case this post belongs to "Attaining lucidity") or not, i'll try it in 5 minutes.

Have a good night. ^_^

I sometiems use the technique you describe when WILDing... you just perform a tactile sensation until it becomes real. It works especially well when you're chaining dreams.

**Elwood** · 02-16-2008 06:27 AM

Can you LD every night mez?

**mez** · 02-16-2008 09:10 AM

Not yet! the frequency of my LD's is increasing every week. My goal is to be able to LD every night.

**dream kitten** · 02-16-2008 10:06 AM

I understand this is not a typical WILD method. For me, everytime I attempt any sort of method, it seems to keep me awake longer than I would like, with it mostly being unsuccessful. Also keep in mind, I am a newbie at this, so I wouldn't understand the dynamics of how other methods worked. If you can suggest a better way, please do so. This is by no means an "easy" way, just a method I learned. I have yet to learn many methods yet, and honestly, I don't see the real difrence between WILD methods and astral projection methods... and of course, I understand that not everyone believes in astral projection. So far honestly, I have only been successul with DILDs. i've only had 2 WILDS that I can remember and it was achieved through this method. it may not work for everyone.

I have a very hyperactive mind and it is often very difficult for me to fall asleep, as it seems I have severe insomnia. If you have any suggestions, I'll be happy to try them!

**unseen wombat** · 02-17-2008 02:15 AM

I started reading Astral Dynamics about 1 week ago. I started off with the stirring motion in the thumb knuckle and almost immediately felt what he said I would. Since, I've tried to do the sponging up through the legs and arms to raise my energy in my sub navel storage area.

I don't know if all this stuff about energy and storage areas is true, I think of it more like a unique way of visualization, but last night, I was focusing on the stirring motion in my foot, and I got farther with WILD than I ever have before.

I can never even get to SP, but while I was focusing on getting that tingling feeling in my foot, I felt an amazing rush of energy through my entire body. It was like butterflies in my stomach, but everywhere. I didn't get lucid, but I could tell I was very close. I will definitely be reading more about exit techniques.

**MrDamon** · 02-17-2008 08:10 AM

@ Dream Kitten..

If you have trouble sleeping, you may benefit from Brain Wave Generator or Neuro Programmer 2..

Google up and give it a shot..

All the best..

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