Thread: Stoners Read This:

Sorry about that,
I didn't mean to categorize anyone with that statement.
But I thought it might get your attention.
I just have a simple question,
Does smoking pot really interfere with lucid dreaming?
I heard that once, and never knew if it was true.
I am thinking about doing it occasionally,
and just curious to how it may affect other peoples lucid dreaming.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Yes. It hurts dream recall.

Yes, it also causes psychosis and cannibalism.

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Yes, it also causes psychosis and cannibalism.

Scientifical research on that, point me please!

And I'm not a stoner, for the record, so I have no idea how pot influences lucid dreaming (or anything else for the matter). Nor do I have anything against it. But people around tend to say it supresses dream recall.

Yup, it kills recall. I stay far far away from the stuff.

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Yes, it also causes psychosis and cannibalism.

Haha, looks like I am reconsidering not smoking pot anymore.

To be honest I think it's silly that people would smoke pot to help their dreams in any shape or form only.

I was speaking to someone on here who was asking me if I take anything to help me LD. I didn't even know there was such things till yesterday.
I replied telling him no and he told me a list of things that he took, the only ones I can remember right now were B6 and marijuana.

Surely this is a bit foolish and maybe over the line a tad?
It can't be good for your health

It's like people are giving their life away for dreams.

I am not whining but I think threads like this only encourage people to take substances, which is 'bad'.

Friggin' tempting that's what.

Temptation's a mofo.
P.S. You're a great dancer...heh..

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Yes, it also causes psychosis and cannibalism.

Who's been pissing in your Brain?

Aaaanyway.
In my experience getting significantly stoned in the 4 hours before going to sleep hurts dreamrecall, except when I smoke Hashish. I've noticed that when I smoke a moderate amount of Hashish or some Marijuana earlier in the day my dreams are rather psychedelically enhanced instead.

Originally Posted by Oedipud

I've tried the whole gamut of consciousness-altering drugs to influence LD's, and I can honestly say that I don't recommend any. They mess with dream recall, REM patterns, and it really, really sucks to wake up in the dark with full-blown hallucinogenic visuals.

It's been my experience that the alkaloids that don't cause immediate changes are actually the best. African Dream Root, or Silene Capensis is far and away the best LD inducing substance that I've tried...it's legal, and it doesn't affect normal waking consciousness.

The family of chemicals that are involved are adaptogens...it takes time for them to build up and take effect in the system. What you will notice is a steady increase in dreaming visuals, more profound/emotive content, and better recall (probably related to the increased visuals and emotion).

The expense is pretty high for Silene, no matter where you get it, but I'd recommend it any day over marijuana.

Do you have any advice on how to use Silene Capensis, what doses to uses and how often to ingest for desirable dreameffects? I have tried steeping a tea out of the recommended half to a whole teaspoon of powdered dreamroot, had positive experiences the first time but no effects were noticed on a 2nd and a 2d time.

PS: Sleeping on acid has induced a very wakefull, dormant but not asleep-kind of state in which mostly geometric, colorfull and bright hypnagogia is seen and sometimes minidreams appear.
Something not very desirable to dream on, but low doses may be just perfect for Dreamenhancement and mental clearity in (Lucid)Dreams. I have once tried this with about 1/5th of a blotter but slept too deep to remember dreams. I shall do this again in a time in which my DreamRecall is better.
Also it certainly doesn't have to suck to wake up in the middle of the night with full blown hallucinogenic visuals; it depends on who you are and what your lifeview is. Some people actually find full blown visual hallucinations in the dark very desirable 'cause they see them as visions of divine light and symbolical insight, as opposed to something dreadfull like "signs of ailment and disease" and madness. People like me. And many many others just like me. People on these forums seem very unmovable from their tightly fixated, immobile point of view/look on life.

The only drugs that truely ruin lives and are to be labelled "Risky" even IF the user would be aresponsible person are Meth, Crack/Cocaine, Heroin & Opiates( Those painreleaving pills 4/5th of the US population is popping ) Hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD, Mescaline(Peyote, San pedro Cacti), Psilocybin(mushrooms), Salvia, Ayahuasca/Yopo/DMT & Cannabis are toxically seen the drugs that should be least worried about and, when used in a controlled enviroment, by mentally stabile and responsible people are, allthough extreme in effects, very unlikely to lead to any kind of medical trouble or death. The only disastrous kind of use of these Hallucinogens would be to ingest them on very chaotic parties, city streets or to take rediculous amounts of any of these: yes there are people who are wreckless and will abuse anything. But mostly themselves.
How many abuse alcohol? Don't think I even wanna know. I bet allmost everyone on here knows at least 1 person that uses alcohol irresponsibly. But remember how many people DO use alcohol in an intelligent responsible manner. Why should this be any different fro Maijuana or More psychedelic magic plants? I think the legalisation of these substances would be a better thing to reduce druginduced harm and drugcriminality than the current policy of Just making a war on it and bannish it.

Originally Posted by DuB

lol

the reason it messes up your dream recall is because it kills brain cells right?

You're getting around aren't you CX?

Originally Posted by Snowy Egypt

You're getting around aren't you CX?

Hey, SE, he's an experienced member, don't mess!

So I've read. Lucky... >___>

if you mean spamming, I don't think I'm spamming.
I'm just posting my mind.
all my posts are on topic, and not one-two words.
and Jdeadevil, thank you for notify me as an experienced member

ALSOOO
last week a man by the name of Albert Hoffman left us.
He was the man who first synthesized LSD or "ACID."
He was a swiss scientist, and had ingested Acid many times for experimental purposes.
And guess what, he lived to 102.

Originally Posted by Creation X

if you mean spamming, I don't think I'm spamming.
I'm just posting my mind.
all my posts are on topic, and not one-two words.
and Jdeadevil, thank you for notify me as an experienced member

Oh no, I don't mean spamming. I just ment I'm seeing a lot of you.

Originally Posted by Creation X

the reason it messes up your dream recall is because it kills brain cells right?

No, and saying so is ignorant. Brain biochemistry is incredibly complex. Even such things as breathing more can affect it. Hallucinogens deal with the neurotransmitters in the brain, tampering the way they'd normally function. Take painkillers, for example: they block the cells' ability to transmit pain neurotransmitters. Hallucinogens have a wider effect on that delicate structure, and for reasons unknown it (supposedly) ruins dream recall. How exactly that happens is unknown and impractical information.

Hitting someone's head with little strength kills more brain cells than any drug could possibly do.

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Hitting someone's head with little strength kills more brain cells than any drug could possibly do.

That's so true. I don't need evidence for that.

Originally Posted by Creation X

the reason it messes up your dream recall is because it kills brain cells right?

I think it has to do with the state of mind. I can't WILD on command. But when I lay down to go to sleep at night, I can tell if I will be able to WILD or not. There is a certain state of mind where I get hypnagogic imagery easily. If I have that before sleeping I am pretty sure I will have a WILD, but it is random.

Originally Posted by Creation X

oh, Ok that's good then
and ontopic: drugs are terrible, you shouldn't try them.
I wouldn't doubt they would mess up lucidity horribly.

I have experience with lucid dreaming after smoking marijuana , and also after drinking alcohol. I do think that marijuana and alcohol make dreams and lucid dreams less likely. However I have had a lucid dream after smoking, drinking, and also both at once. So while it is unlikely you will, it is possible.

I'm so tired.
Good night everyone.

Originally Posted by Creation X

the reason it messes up your dream recall is because it kills brain cells right?

You could not get it more wrong cannabis stimulates the growth of brain cells not kills them lol you should check if you dont belive me so if anyone says that weed kills brain cells they dont know what they are talking about.

Originally Posted by AmazeO XD

Yes. It hurts dream recall.

It also makes attainment very difficult, and it makes it extremely difficult to hold onto lucidity once you finally do attain it.

I can't stop laughing about this thread, the people who have never had any experiences and are so proud, then the people who act like they have pounds hidden under their bed. then the normal people who think its fine and/or smoke occasionally.

Lol lost, for the sake of personal improvement, in which category do I fall?

Why am I hearing about a lot of people on this forum doing drugs and smoking? I think I'm one of the only ones that knows how bad it actually is without actually ever going near any drug or smoking anything.