Thread: Stoners Read This:

Yes. It hurts dream recall.

Yes, it also causes psychosis and cannibalism.

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Yes, it also causes psychosis and cannibalism.

Scientifical research on that, point me please!

And I'm not a stoner, for the record, so I have no idea how pot influences lucid dreaming (or anything else for the matter). Nor do I have anything against it. But people around tend to say it supresses dream recall.

Yup, it kills recall. I stay far far away from the stuff.

I smoke strong weed every day and can recall 2 full dreams a night. If you only smoke it now and then it wont effect ur lucid dreaming. The guy who said it causes can and ph does not no what he is talking about and is just some random idiot who probley has never even seen cannabis.

Why am I hearing about a lot of people on this forum doing drugs and smoking? I think I'm one of the only ones that knows how bad it actually is without actually ever going near any drug or smoking anything.

The beating of the dead horse is quite possibly the best thing evaaar.
Being a former weed-head I place my two cents here as well-
Like anything, it all depends on the individual and their reaction. Bottom line. Just like the old tale of the two frat boys. Both get drunk, but one always wants to fight while the other only wants to make out with hawt chicks.
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Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

Why am I hearing about a lot of people on this forum doing drugs and smoking? I think I'm one of the only ones that knows how bad it actually is without actually ever going near any drug or smoking anything.

Lol you know how bad it is and you have never been near it ? Ha ha you dont have a clue lol

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Yes, it also causes psychosis and cannibalism.

Haha, looks like I am reconsidering not smoking pot anymore.

To be honest I think it's silly that people would smoke pot to help their dreams in any shape or form only.

I was speaking to someone on here who was asking me if I take anything to help me LD. I didn't even know there was such things till yesterday.
I replied telling him no and he told me a list of things that he took, the only ones I can remember right now were B6 and marijuana.

Surely this is a bit foolish and maybe over the line a tad?
It can't be good for your health

It's like people are giving their life away for dreams.

I am not whining but I think threads like this only encourage people to take substances, which is 'bad'.

Friggin' tempting that's what.

Temptation's a mofo.
P.S. You're a great dancer...heh..

Thanks?

Originally Posted by cannabisman

The guy who said it causes can and ph does not no what he is talking about and is just some random idiot who probley has never even seen cannabis.

That guy smokes more weed then you can dream of. That guy was joking.

lmao...np

rofl you must be jokeing i have more weed at my friends then everyone put together in this forum plus unless he goes to amsterdam alot he has never smoked proper weed as there is no good weed in america which comes close to it.
Rofl rofl

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

Why am I hearing about a lot of people on this forum doing drugs and smoking? I think I'm one of the only ones that knows how bad it actually is without actually ever going near any drug or smoking anything.

JD, weed is not THAT dangerous, and that's mainly what people are talking about on here. I don't do that stuff either, I know what it did to my brother. He ended up with a huge debt, forcing him into doing crimes. Long story short, he couldn't control it, and ended up having to do some communityservice, and a few spots on his criminal record. Now he's fine though, and is making a lot of money, waiting a baby and everything.
Some people have control over it though, and they're all fine.

I can only agree with people telling us to stay away from it though. We don't need weed.

Originally Posted by cannabisman

rofl you must be jokeing i have more weed at my friends then everyone put together in this forum plus unless he goes to amsterdam alot he has never smoked proper weed as there is no good weed in america which comes close to it.
Rofl rofl

Yeah, I'm sure your friend takes monthly trips to Amsterdam to import weed.

Amsterdam doesn't have the holy grail of weed. There is just an abundance of it and it’s sold publicly. Going to Amsterdam only to smoke weed is just retarded and a huge waste of money. You can find the same stuff here.

I’m done indulging your fantasies of being friends with the Tony Montana of marijuana.

Originally Posted by cannabisman

Lol you know how bad it is and you have never been near it ? Ha ha you dont have a clue lol

It's called Health Education mate.

Lol Jdea I don't mean to sound like arse, you have an opinion and I respect that, but how can you be sure? There has been so damn little research on the effects of the cannabis, and the little research there is has a tremendous bias. Yes, people who smoke weed are usually problematic because smoking weed is illegal. If it weren't, a wider amount of people would consider it.

Nor am I saying that smoking it isn't bad for your health - I completely don't know. Nor do scientists, nor health educators, nor anyone.

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...0&postcount=15

Increases surrealism so if you get lucid by noticing strange occurrences it will help, however, you probably won't remember your dream.

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Lol Jdea I don't mean to sound like arse, you have an opinion and I respect that, but how can you be sure? There has been so damn little research on the effects of the cannabis, and the little research there is has a tremendous bias. Yes, people who smoke weed are usually problematic because smoking weed is illegal. If it weren't, a wider amount of people would consider it.

Nor am I saying that smoking it isn't bad for your health - I completely don't know. Nor do scientists, nor health educators, nor anyone.

I actually know what you mean, my brother smoked weed in secret and he looks fine. Although it's a bit harder to judge now because he's basically like a Lab Rat in where he lives for University.

Point is though, I just heard so many unhealthy things about it and that's what has lead me to believe it's Satan in the form of a drug (over reaction in words). Seriously, despite the fact this lady probably took it daily, I saw a before and after image of what the lady looked like and what the drug did to her. Don't know if it was the drug but it certainly screwed her up. Why is everyone asking me why I'm sure? It's it obvious? Actually you know what? It's probably just a United Kingdom thing. This place is screwed man!

(Also, I like the colour you changed your signature and avatar to)

[QUOTE=Jdeadevil;795980]I actually know what you mean, my brother smoked weed in secret and he looks fine. Although it's a bit harder to judge now because he's basically like a Lab Rat in where he lives for University.

Point is though, I just heard so many unhealthy things about it and that's what has lead me to believe it's Satan in the form of a drug (over reaction in words). Seriously, despite the fact this lady probably took it daily, I saw a before and after image of what the lady looked like and what the drug did to her. Don't know if it was the drug but it certainly screwed her up. Why is everyone asking me why I'm sure? It's it obvious? Actually you know what? It's probably just a United Kingdom thing. This place is screwed man!

People in every country of the world smoke dope and grow it and after all its a plant which grows naturely and to the guy who said going to amsterdam is a waste of money some of us work and it costs nothing to go and you cant get amsterdam weed where you live and yes it has the best weed bye far in the world. Someone like you who cant afford it would not know tho keep smoking that brown hash.

Dude, use punctuation! apologies from me but I could hardly read your text! I understood it though, don't worry. Anyway~

It's not about affording it buddy. Why would anyone want to spend their nice well earned money on basic complete shit that fucks you up? Nobody would want to do that! Lucky for me I've probably had a nice life so far because of that I don't smoke or do drugs.

And yes, I know every country smokes drugs, but it's because of the fact that it's used so reguarly that my Health Education was a bit more of a priority. Sorry if you're jealous of me being clean of the stuff, as you obviously are.

Final point, sorry if that came out wrong.

(Also, nice username)

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

I actually know what you mean, my brother smoked weed in secret and he looks fine. Although it's a bit harder to judge now because he's basically like a Lab Rat in where he lives for University.

Point is though, I just heard so many unhealthy things about it and that's what has lead me to believe it's Satan in the form of a drug (over reaction in words). Seriously, despite the fact this lady probably took it daily, I saw a before and after image of what the lady looked like and what the drug did to her. Don't know if it was the drug but it certainly screwed her up. Why is everyone asking me why I'm sure? It's it obvious? Actually you know what? It's probably just a United Kingdom thing. This place is screwed man!

(Also, I like the colour you changed your signature and avatar to)

There are unhealthy things about marijuana, but that can be said about any over the counter or prescription drugs too. Of course not everyone should do it, and I personally think nobody should do it daily, but the drug laws in America are pretty stupid, I'll give you examples.

Schedule 1 means that the drug has no medicinal value.
Well the main psychoactive chemical in marijuana, THC, has been synthesized and is used in an anti-nausea drug known as Marinol, for cancer patients dealing with chemotherapy. It is also a good pain killer with a very very low toxicity compared to over the counter drugs. You can also vaporize or cook with marijuana to no get the bad effects from inhaling smoke.

MDMA is a schedule 1 drug, but it was first used in therapy sessions and was highly praised. It allowed people to open up to their therapist, and was said by therapists to have a lot of work done in a short amount of time. I have taken it once, and I can totally see how it could be used that way. (no I wasn't raving and dancing around, I was just with friends having an amazing bonding experience.

LSD is also a schedule 1 drug, but was first sent to psychologists to study the effects of schizophrenia, and the effects on "normal" people. It was also used to treat alcoholics, which had a very high success rate, and the founder of alcoholics anonymous was one of the people it treated.

Psilocybin (magic mushrooms) were used in countries all over as a shamanic tool to understand things about human nature and to cure things like depression. In modern times, it is also used this way, but has also been proven to cure cluster headaches. It has also been used to treat terminally ill cancer patients dealing with their death, to make their last months or years more comfortable and happy.

So just because you hear a lot of bad things about these drugs, doesn't mean they are all bad and have no usage. All drugs can be abused, some more than others like speed and opiates. I am in no way saying everyone should use these. They are not for everyone, and before you even consider trying any substance, you should do extensive research about the drug. And no drug should be used daily, and in some cases, not even weekly or monthly.