Thread: WILD vs. WBTB

i was just wondering what the difference between the WILD and WBTB methods for inducing LDs? they seem pretty much the same to me.

I think WILD you stay conscious before you enter a dream where as WBTB you fall asleep before entering a lucid dream.

You can do a WILD before falling asleep when practicing the WBTB method. So if you do that then it makes them kind of the same.

WILD is basically a method that is almsot always practived with WBTB, but WBTB does not need to be practiced with WILD. THe more I practice WBTB the more unplanned WILD's I get.

WILD is a general pathway into lucid dream. (like you can wake up in the middle of a dream, fall back asleep and have WILD)

WBTB is a technique (you can only practice it during certain time of the night and it takes a lot of conscious effort)

sdsfdsdfg WBTB takes no effort.. you just have to overcome any laziness.

WILD's the one that needs concentration, but hey it all depends. Sometimes it can be much easier than it's hyped up to be.

It look like you could say WBTB only sets up the right condition for a LD. It still have to be induced by either MILD or WILD. I think.

Originally posted by Jammy
It look like you could say WBTB only sets up the right condition for a LD. It still have to be induced by either MILD or WILD. I think.

Thats what I thought.

WBTB method make me quite tired and lazy. i dont remember my dreams very well if im tired! so the WILD method seems a good idea if i have the right concentration.

WILD's the one that needs concentration, but hey it all depends. Sometimes it can be much easier than it's hyped up to be. [/b]

All successes Ive had with WILD's come from being relaxed and not trying to concentrate much at all. Its when I try to concentrate that I can never do it.

WBTB method make me quite tired and lazy. i dont remember my dreams very well if im tired! so the WILD method seems a good idea if i have the right concentration.[/b]

Youre gonnna have a hard time doing a WILD without a WBTB. And like I said, for me personally, WILD's cant come with intense concentration. Its always when I decide to give my mind a little slack, and relax a bit more, that they come.

so i should just relax and think what i wanna think but not let my mind fall asleep. do you need to WBTB before doing a WILD? is that because you need to get some REM sleep before your body can fall asleep without your mind?

Yes, with WBTB you're more likely to enter REM either right away or soon after. Also, staying up for a 30-60 mins (or 60-90) will wake up your mind enough to make it easier to stay conscious while your body sleeps.

WILD takes being a very relaxed, patient, or experienced person. WBTB can be done by pretty much anyone, you at least need the will to get out of bed tired and stay up a little bit - it's not a guarenteed LD though, my first few times I didn't.

WILD takes being a very relaxed, patient, or experienced person[/b]

My first WILD's were done when I was a hyper, impatient kid with no lucid dreaming experiecne. I ddint even know what they were. I used to have them at school, casue I thought they were much cooler than school. Anyone can do a WILD. Its jsut a tough one to be able to induce whenever you like....actually I was better at it then but probably because I was so sleep stareved waking up for school(goign to sleep late) and I loved to sleep at school.