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      Enjoy this article, it makes some valid points.

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      from Psychology Today, October 1989, pp. 27-32

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      THE TECHNIQUE OF LUCID DREAMING

      CAN HELP YOU USE YOUR

      DREAMS TO EXPLORE YOUR PSYCHE



      by Jayne Gackenbach and Jane Bosveld



      It was late Sunday night and Jill Day was having a nightmare.

      She had watched a violent movie about a serial murderer and,

      recognizing that her dreams were often affected by such stories,

      she knew as she fell asleep that she had probably not seen the

      last of the killer. Perhaps because of that awareness, when the

      movie psychopath appeared in her dream and threatened to kill her,

      Day suddenly recognized he was not real. "I know this is a

      dream," she yelled at the man. "Now go away. Get out of here!"

      The image of the man dissolved, as did all other imagery, and she

      slowly drifted into the obscurity of dreamless sleep.



      Banishing evil from a dream...challenging frightening

      characters...jumping through a window and flying away from a

      heated argument...such things are possible in the paradoxical and

      alluring realm of lucid dreaming. Unlike ordinary dreams, which

      seam real to the sleeper having them, lucid dreams occur when

      dreamers suddenly become *aware* that what they are experiencing

      is unreal, a dream. The intrusion of consciousness changes every

      aspect of the dreamworld. Lucid dreamers often speak of a

      hyper-real quality to their dreams, which elicit stronger

      emotional reactions than their nonlucid relatives. In the lucid

      state, dreamers can even gain some control over dream content;

      they may decide to soar over the Great Lakes, for example.

      Conscious awareness also allows the dreamer to work

      therapeutically with dream material, in a relatively safe setting

      in which he can maintain a large measure of control. Finally,





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      lucid dreaming is a skill many can learn. In fact, we estimate,

      based on our own research and a survey of the available

      literature, that 58% of all men and women will spontaneously

      experience a lucid dream at least once in their lives.





      Discoverers of the Lucid Dream



      The ancient Greeks and Romans visited dream temples, where

      they searched their dreams for messages from the gods (to dream of

      having one's throat cut meant good luck), and it seems reasonable

      to assume some people have always had lucid dreams. But no

      extensive study of the phenomenon exists in the West before 1867,

      when the Marquis Hervey de Saint-Denys, a French professor of

      Chinese literature, published *Dreams and How to Guide Them*, the

      first serious work on conscious dream control. Though the Marquis

      reports dreams in which he was able to "call up the shades of the

      dead and also transform men and things according to my will," it

      was not until 1913, in a paper presented to the British Society

      for Psychical Research, that the Dutch physician Frederik Willems

      Van Eeden wrote of having a "lucid" dream.



      Van Eeden may have coined the term, but it was Hugh Calloway,

      and English contemporary, who was the first to explore the

      aesthetic contours of the lucid state in dreams. Written under

      the name Oliver Fox, Calloway's description of his first lucid

      dream (at age 16) trembles with the excitement that many have

      subsequently felt. "Instantly," he wrote, "the vividness of life

      increased a hundredfold. Never had sea and sky and trees shone

      with such glamorous beauty; even the commonplace houses seem alive

      and mystically beautiful. Never had I felt so absolutely well, so

      clear-brained, so inexpressibly *free*! The sensation was

      exquisite beyond words; but it lasted only a few minutes and I

      awoke.



      Lucid dreamers often speak of the thrill of observing their

      own dreams. Daryl E. Hewitt, a counselor and a veteran lucid

      dreamer from San Francisco, is typical. He recalls learning "to

      fly very fast and very high, to pass through walls, including

      steel (and to burn holes through them with lasers from my

      fingertips!), explore other planets, and especially to alter the

      dream environment at will, making things appear, disappear, and

      change shape and color." It's as if the dreamer were making an

      interactive movie, creating fantasy and watching it unfold at the

      same time. The dreams themselves may often be short-lived, but

      their sheer intensity often indelibly impresses them on the

      dreamer's memory.





      What Lucid Dreams Can Tell Us



      Freud called dreams the royal road to the unconscious, and

      today virtually all forms of psychotherapy use the patient's





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      remembered dreams in the therapeutic struggle for insight and

      self-awareness. But only through lucid dreaming can you yourself

      "will" a confrontation with difficult emotional issues and try to

      resolve them. For the first time, this makes possible what

      psychologist Joseph Dane of the University of Virginia calls

      "intra-personal psychotherapy," in which you enlist both "waking

      and dreaming consciousness" to work on your own psychological

      fears and dilemmas firsthand -- in your own mind. Potentially,

      this could be a therapeutic breakthrough.



      Using dream analysis to identify the source of your problems

      is usually not simple, though, and you may quite innocently

      mislead yourself. If, for example, you confront your brother in a

      dream and for the first time confess you have always feared him,

      you may feel some relief. But you may also be missing some more

      profound issue. Perhaps it is not your brother you're afraid of,

      but an aspect of yourself that your brother represents. In many

      instances you may be entirely shut off from your deeper feelings,

      and a professional therapist may be required to guide you in the

      direction of emotional truth.



      Also, paradoxically, the pleasure of lucid dreams, together

      with the power of the conscious mind to control them, may lead the

      dreamers into the habit of turning nasty dreams into sweet ones.

      As psychologist Gayle Delaney points out, the very appearance of

      consciousness contaminates the dream with the attitudes and coping

      strategies that are employed by the dreamers while awake.



      "The single most destructive advice is to encourage people to

      manipulate their dreams to have happy endings," Delaney says. "I

      encourage people to use lucidity to explore the dream rather than

      to control it." In this regard, she believes it is often better

      for people to start up terrified from a nightmare than to awaken

      calm from a lucid dream that they have sugarcoated. The nightmare

      forces the dreamer to recognize that he or she is conflicted or in

      trouble.



      Like Delaney, Erik Craig, a Massachusetts-based existential

      psychologist, worries that lucidity may serve as "a narcissistic

      flight from one's fuller, though perhaps less appealing,

      possibilities." Craig recalls a high-school student who dreamed

      that her father was a ship's captain oblivious to a raging storm

      that threatened to sink his vessel. At this point, the woman

      turned lucid: She realizes that she could stop the storm and did

      so. This made her feel great, but by altering the dream, Craig

      believes, the woman was avoiding her distress over her father's

      alcoholism. Lucidity, says Craig, allowed her to "bolster her

      defenses against the awareness of these painful but important

      truths."













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      The Power of Dream Dialogue



      That lucid dreamers often employ the same defensive actions

      during a dream as they do while awake is one reason most

      clinicians argue that it's important to engage dream characters in

      conversation. By posing questions to the characters or to other

      aspects of the dream, you may be able to get in touch with and

      work through sensitive emotional issues. And if the dialogue is

      productive, you may see the dream character change shape, become

      less fearsome, get smaller, disappear, or merge with your "self"

      in the dream.



      The importance of dream dialogue is emphasized by West German

      psychologists Paul Tholey, of the University of Frankfurt, and

      Norbert Sattler, who together train students and patients to

      lucid-dream. They have found that most people can learn to

      lucid-dream, and once having done so they can learn to deal

      effectively with unconscious conflicts. Tholey, who has been

      studying lucid dreaming since 1959, first began investigating the

      therapeutic potential of what he called Klartraume (clear dreams)

      when he encountered both helpful and menacing figures in his own

      lucid dreams. For example, Tholey recalls that, after his

      father's death, he often dreamed about him as a threatening,

      insulting figure. "When I became lucid, I would beat him in

      anger. He was then sometimes transformed into a more primitive

      creature, like an animal or a mummy. Whenever I won, I was

      overcome by a feeling of triumph. Nevertheless, my father

      continued to appear as a threatening figure in subsequent dreams.



      "Then I had the following decisive dream. I became lucid

      while being chased by a tiger and wanted to flee. I then pulled

      myself together, stood my ground, and asked, 'Who are you?' The

      tiger was taken aback, but was transformed into my father and

      answered, 'I am your father and will now tell you what you are to

      do!'



      "In contrast to my earlier dreams, I did not attempt to beat

      him, but tried to get involved in a dialogue with him. I told him

      that he could not order me around. I rejected his threats and

      insults. On the other hand, I had to admit that some of my

      father's criticism was justified, and I decided to change my

      behavior accordingly. At that moment, my father became friendly,

      and we shook hands. I asked him if he could help me, and he

      encouraged me to go my own way alone. My father then seemed to

      slip into my own body, and I remained alone in the dream."



      This dream, Tholey reports, had a "liberating and

      encouraging" effect on his dreams and his life. "My father never

      again appeared as a threatening dream figure," he says. What's

      more, "In the waking state, my unreasonable fear and inhibitions

      in my dealings with persons of authority disappeared."









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      Lucid Dreaming as Therapy



      Tholey has found that the lucid dream has several therapeutic

      advantages. First, lucidity seems to create an environment in

      which the dream ego is less afraid of threatening figures or

      situations and is more willing to confront them. Second, the

      ability to manipulate dream content allows the dream ego to "get

      in touch with places, times, situations or persons" that are

      important to the dreamer and that he or she desires to

      investigate. In addition, when conversing with other dream

      figures, the dreamer's ego is often capable of recognizing the

      complex dynamics that may occur within these interactions.



      It is not lucid dreaming *per se* that allows self-healing

      and growth, Tholey contends, but the resolute and mature action of

      the dream ego. When this is absent, the lucid dream will have

      little therapeutic value. Some dreamers become overly aggressive

      with hostile dream characters and kill them; others become totally

      submissive and allow themselves to be killed. These are unlikely

      to be constructive responses, says Tholey.



      Battling and defeating hostile dream characters and

      situations are common response in lucid nightmares. Elaine Smith

      of Matewan, WV, used physical violence to handle the following

      nightmare: "I was in a building with a group of people. The

      building was surrounded by a group of zombies. I had a gun that

      misfired every time a tried to shoot a creature. They managed to

      break in and we were quickly surrounded. I knew that our escape

      depended on my gun working. Suddenly, I realized that I was

      dreaming and that I could force the gun to work by willing it to

      do so. The gun began firing and we escaped."



      Guns, however, are not required for a successful escape from

      dream peril. Patricia Garfield], author of several popular books

      on dreaming, explains that "by yielding, by providing no solid

      resistance, the intended victim can render an attacker helpless.

      He fails to get at a person who is so supple, so light, so quick,

      so like water, that there is nothing to receive the brutal action.

      Exhausted the attacker quits."



      Beyond that, psychotherapist Scott Sparrow points out that

      although one can easily escape from or destroy a dream figure, the

      skill should not be thought of as an end in itself. "Such

      actions," he says, "often fit into a developmental continuum as

      intermediate accomplishments. As the therapist, I encourage the

      dreamer not to get stuck in such intermediate stages, and ton

      continue working toward dialogue, reconciliation, and

      integration."



      What is the most enlightening way to respond to a fearful

      dream figure? Tholey suggests the following:









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      o Do not attempt to flee. Rather, openly, confront the dream

      figure and ask in a friendly way, "Who are you?" or "Who am I?"



      o If it is possible to address the dream figure, try to achieve

      reconciliation through dialogue. If agreement is impossible, try

      to frame the conflict as an open dispute. Refuse insults or

      threats, but recognize justifiable charges made against you.



      o Do not surrender to an attack by a dream figure. Show your

      readiness to defend yourself by taking a defensive position and

      by staring the dream figure in the eyes. If a fight is

      unavoidable, attempt to defeat the dream enemy, but do not try

      to kill. If victorious, offer reconciliation.



      o If reconciliation is not possible, separate the figure

      physically and/or in thought and word.



      o After reconciliation, ask the dream figure if he can help you.

      Then mention specific problems in your waking or dream life with

      which you need help.



      However beneficial holding a dialogue with a dream character

      may be, Tholey believes a still more effective technique is for

      the lucid dreamer's "ego" to enter the body of another dream

      character. He illustrates this with a teenager who was having

      trouble with a potential boyfriend. She said, "I asked myself . .

      . why didn't he return my feelings and wanted to get an answer to

      this question in the dream. It was then that I became aware of my

      spirit, that is, that part of me I think of as my 'self,'

      detaching itself from my body and floating across to his body and

      entering into it . . . . As time went on, however, I got used to

      being in his body . . . . I saw how he perceived me . . . the

      conflict he was in. After all, he had, I suppose, become aware of

      my feelings for him and was very fond of me, but he did not want

      to go out with me as such . . . . I understood why he had been so

      reserved with me, and I realized that he would never return my

      feelings."



      Tholey often describes dream figures as having independent

      consciousnesses, with individual personality traits and behavior

      patterns. But he does not mean to imply that they are somehow

      autonomous beings. Rather, they are conflicting ideas and

      emotions from the dreamer.



      For this reason, Tholey says, lucid dreamers should never

      resort to aggression, though self-defense may be necessary. Every

      effort should be made to discuss disputes openly. "The appearance

      of a hostile dream figure may reflect, in symbolic form, a

      psychological conflict," he explains. "The threatening figure is

      often the personification of an 'off-split,' a repressed, or

      isolated, subsystem of the personality." Conversation may begin a







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      process of integration. By contrast, battle with a dream

      character may only serve to bury the problem it represents deeper

      within the unconscious.





      Unconscious Dream Healing



      Behavioral psychology holds that it's possible to change an

      individual's behavior by rewarding, or reinforcing, the desired

      actions and punishing, or negatively reinforcing, undesirable

      actions. Understanding the reasons underlying one's actions,

      behaviorists contend, is not necessary to change. Although most

      psychologists now view a purely behaviorist perspective with some

      skepticism, it can play a role in lucid-dream therapy.

      Psychologist Peter Fellows, for one, never teaches dream

      interpretation at all as part of lucid dream therapy.



      "Time in a lucid dream is a precious commodity and I do not

      like to waste it," Fellows says. "If, as I am dreaming, I become

      lucid at a point where someone is sitting on my head, I do not

      begin to question him on the symbolic meaning of the experience.

      I act, and quickly.



      "When symbolic dreams work for us, a waking-life conflict is

      acted out in symbolic guise and resolved. Somehow, that

      resolution is translated back into real like with real effect.

      What lucidity enables us to do is to resolve the dream conflict

      and to reap the benefits in self-confidence that come from doing

      so consciously.



      "Interpreting the dream, knowing what area of one's like the

      dream conflict is related to, is fine, but when the work is

      actually done, the result will be experienced whether or not the

      interpretation was correct," he says.



      Tholey, too, has found that a patient can reap the benefits

      of a dreamed action without understanding why. For example, a

      28-year-old student came to therapy complaining of nightmares.

      She showed signs of anxiety and depression, a result perhaps of

      her failing marriage and her difficult relationship with her dying

      father. In the course of several therapy sessions, Tholey

      discussed ways of dealing with the frightening characters that

      haunted her nightmares, and soon after the woman had a lucid

      dream.



      She was in her childhood home, awaiting the arrival of a

      group of people who intended to harm her. She remembered that

      this setting often occurred in her dreams, a thought the gave rise

      to lucidity. "Despite the fact that she was struck with fear and

      wanted to flee," explains Tholey, "she overcame this fear and

      courageously stood her ground." Then people in long robes

      approached. As she looked at the first figure to come close -- a

      gigantic man with a cold, blue face and glowing eyes -- she





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      followed Tholey's instructions and asked him, "What are you doing

      here? What do you want from me?"



      The man looked at her sadly and helplessly as he said, "Why,

      you called us. You need us for your anxiety." At this, the man

      shrank to normal size. His face turned flesh colored and his eyes

      ceased to glow. Since then, the woman has had no more nightmares

      and has felt less anxious in her waking life. Nonetheless, she

      remained unable to make conscious sense of the dream.



      Tholey has several theories about how apparently meaningless

      dreams may help us to heal. The courage needed to confront a

      hostile dream figure may bolster the dreamer's ego in a way that

      affects his or her waking life. Or it may be that confronting our

      fears desensitizes us: Talking about nightmares in waking therapy

      sometimes helps to quell the unconscious fears that give rise to

      them.



      This desensitization may be particularly useful in treating

      phobias. One lucid dreamer learned to temper his fear of heights

      in this way. When he first began flying in his lucid dreams, the

      man explains, he ascended too quickly and woke up badly

      frightened. So he began to experiment with varying the altitude

      of his dream flights, learning gradually to control how high he

      flew. "Now," he says, "When I'm awake and climbing or standing at

      a serious height, I don't feel nearly as frightened as before."



      Sattler, Tholey's collaborator, also believes that

      intellectual insight is not essential to positive therapeutic

      outcomes. In his view, lucid dreamers are working on formative

      experiences, long buried in the unconscious. The dreamer then

      acts out his conflicts and attempted resolutions of them in an

      alternative reality (the dream). As Sattler says, "You have to

      get in contact with all this old stuff. It's the one way out...to

      live through something." When you wake up from the dream, you may

      then experience behavioral changes without understanding why.





      The Best Way to Use Lucidity



      Obviously, lady dreaming is not a panacea for life's

      problems, nor a replacement for traditional psychotherapies.

      Indeed, working with lucidity may be the most beneficial when use

      in moderation *and* in conjunction with other therapy. One reason

      for this is that no one's control of dream content is perfect. As

      Jungian analyst James Albert Hall has observed, "The waking ego is

      like a gatekeeper who can *permit* or *deny* entrance into the

      boundaries which he guards, but who is powerless to *command* the

      appearance or disappearance of a particular entrant (content),

      however much he might desire it.



      Joseph Dane believes the issue is not whether to control the

      content of a dream, but rather learning how to control one's





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      response to dream events as they appear and enhancing cooperation

      between waking and dreaming consciousness.



      Despite the present limitations of lucid dreaming as a

      therapeutic technique, it can nevertheless be a valuable tool for

      individuals seeking self-understanding. The essential question to

      ask, as Craig has stated, is, "How may we best acquire and use the

      knowledge of this human territory in a way that respects and

      conserves its essential structure and nature?...There are very,

      very few opportunities to have life completely thrown at us, to

      have life explode around us, and for us to be tossed in the middle

      of it." Lucid dreaming is such an experience, and if we learn to

      use it well, we do not yet know how far along the path to

      self-enlightenment it will carry us.



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      Excerpted from the book *Control Your Dreams* by Jayne Gackenbach

      and Jane Bosveld. To be published by Harper & Row Publishers,

      Inc. Copyright 1989 by Jane Gackenback and Jane Bosveld.

      Psychologist Jayne Gackenbach, a leading researcher in lucid

      dreaming, teaches social psychology at Athabasca University in

      Alberta, Canada. Jane Bosveld is a contributing editor to

      *Psychology Today.*































































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      Most people don't realize they've been dreaming until after
      they've awakened and the dream has come to an end. Some people,
      however, are conscious that they're dreaming. These lucid dreamers,
      scientists have discovered, can literally direct their actions and
      change the content of a dream, deciding perhaps to talk physics with
      Einstein, woo and marry a movie star, or assume the powers of
      Superman.

      After nearly a decade of piloting these daring nocturnal flights,
      two psychologists - Stephen LaBerge of Stanford University, author
      of LUCID DREAMING (Ballentine), and Jayne Gackenbach of the
      University of Northern Iowa - have begun to develop a series of
      techniques aimed at helping ordinary dreamers "turn" lucid, and
      lucid dreamers gain greater control over the wooly behemoth of the
      night. These special techniques, still under development, have never
      before been presented in a public forum.

      For those who have aquired the knack of lucidity, the benefits
      can be enormous. Lucid dreaming gives one the chance to experience
      adventures rarely surpassed elsewhere in life. These experiences can
      enhance self-confidence and promote personal growth and self-
      development. By facing fears and learning to make the best of the
      worst situation imaginable, lucid dreamers can overcome nightmares.
      Because recent scientific studies have demonstrated a strong
      connection between dreams and the biological functioning of the
      body, lucid dreams might facilitate physical as well as mental
      health. And finally, because lucid dreaming allows us to tap the
      power of the unconscious, it may also be useful for creative problem
      solving.

      To direct your own nightly dream-time show, attempt exercises
      one, two, three and four as outlined below. LaBerge and Gackenbach
      suggest that you do the tasks as often as possible. Some people may
      succeed in having a lucid dream the very first night they use the
      techniques; others, the researchers note may need to practice for
      several weeks before getting results.

      EXERCISE ONE

      A number of techniques facilitate lucid dreaming. One of the
      simplest is asking yourself many times during the day whether you
      are dreaming. Each time you ask the question, you should look for
      evidence proving you are not dreaming. The most reliable test: Read

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      something, look away for a moment, and then read it again. If it
      reads the same way twice, it is unlikely that you're dreaming. After
      you have proved to yourself that you are not presently dreaming,
      visualize yourself doing whatever it is you'd like.

      Also, tell yourself that you want to recognize a nighttime dream
      the next time it occurs. The mechanism at work here is simple; it's
      much the same as picking up milk at the grocery store after
      reminding yourself to do so an hour before.

      At night people usually realize they are dreaming when they
      experience unusual or bizarre occurrences. For instance, if you find
      yourself flying with no visible means of support, you should realize
      that this only happens in dreams and that you must therefore be
      dreaming.

      If you awaken from a dream in the middle of the night, it's very
      helpful to return to the dream immediately, in your imagination. Now
      envision yourself recognizing the dream as such. Tell yourself, "The
      next time I am dreaming, I want to remember to recognize that I am
      dreaming." If your intention is strong and clear enough, you may
      find yourself in a lucid dream when you return to sleep.

      EXERCISE TWO

      Many lucid dreamers report dreams in which they fly unaided, much
      like Superman. Some lucid dreamers say that flying is a thrilling
      means of travel; others, that it has helped them return from one of
      the more harrowing dream experiences --- the endless fall.

      Why is dream flying so important ? It's a form of dream control
      that's fairly easy to master. It gives the dreamer an exhilarating
      sense of freedom. And it's a basic means of travel in the dream
      world.

      How do you make a dream flight happen at all? We suggest that
      before you retire for bed, you simply repeat these words: "Tonight I
      fly!" Then while still awake, imagine that journey.

      If you find yourself flying, it will be a clear sign that you are
      in a dream. In any case, when you realize you're dreaming, remember
      that you want to fly. When you actually feel yourself flying, say,
      "This is a dream." Make sure that you start modestly, by simply
      floating above the surface of your dream ground.

      As you gain confidence, both in the notion that you're dreaming
      and in your ability to control that experience, you might experiment
      with flying a bit more. Run, taking big leaps, and stay aloft for a
      few seconds so that you resemble an astronaut walking on the moon.
      Try sustained floating, and then flying at low altitudes.

      As your confidence increases, so will your flying skills. While
      asleep, work on increasing altitude, maneuverability, and speed. As
      with speed sports, you should perfect height and maneuverability
      before speed. Of course, you couldn't really hurt yourself --- it's
      only a dream. But you could get scared.

      After you get proficient in dream flying, remember to ask
      yourself these questions : "How high can I fly ? Can I view the

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      earth from outer space ? Can I travel so fast that I lose awareness
      of my surroundings and experience the sensation of pure speed ?"

      Throughout your efforts in dream flight, please remember that
      you're in a dream. With this in mind, your fears will be held at
      bay, and your control over your dream will be greatly enhanced.

      EXERCISE THREE

      Even if you're a frequent lucid dreamer, you may not be able to
      stop your-self from waking up in mid-dream. And even if your dreams
      reach a satisfying end, you may not be able to focus them exactly as
      you please.

      During our years of research, however, we have found that
      spinning your dream body can sustain the period of sleep and give
      you greater dream control. In fact, many subjects at Stanford
      University have used the spinning technique as an effective means of
      staying in a lucid dream. The task outlines below will help you use
      spinning as a means of staying asleep and, more exciting, as a means
      of traveling to whatever dream world you desire.

      As with dream flying, the dream spinning task starts before you
      go to bed. Before retiring, decide on a person, time, and place you
      would like to visit in your lucid dream. The target person and place
      can be either real or imaginary, past, present or future.

      For instance, Sigmund Freud, Vienna, 1900; Stephen LaBerge,
      Stanford, the present; or the president of the solar system, Galaxy
      Base, 2900. Write down and memorize your target person and place,
      then visualize yourself visiting your target and firmly resolve to
      do so in a dream that night.

      When following this procedure, it is possible that you might find
      yourself visiting your target in a non-lucid dream; you will be
      aware that this happened only after you awaken. Nevertheless, you
      should strive for lucidity by following the techniques in exercise
      one. Then proceed to your goal.

      To do so, repeat the phrase describing your target in your dream,
      and spin your whole dream body in a standing position with your arms
      outstretched. You can pirouette or spin like a top, as long as you
      vividly feel your body in motion.

      The same spinning technique will help when, in the middle of a
      lucid dream, you feel the dream imagery beginning to fade. To avoid
      waking up, spin as you repeat your target phrase again and again.
      With practice, you'll return to your target person, time, and place.

      EXERCISE FOUR

      Up until now we have had little control over the occurrence of
      creative dreams. But with lucid dreaming it may be possible to
      intentionally access the creativity of the dream state. You can help
      determine the feasibility of this idea by attempting to solve a
      problem in a lucid dream. Before bed, decide on a problem you would
      like to solve. Frame your problem in the form of a question. For
      example : "What is the topic of my next book ?" "How can I become
      less shy ?" If you have an illness, you might consider the problem
      "How can I regain my health ?"
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      Once you have selected a problem question, write it down and
      memorize it. When doing the lucid-dream-induction exercises,
      remember your question and see yourself looking for the answer in
      your next lucid dream. Then, when in a lucid dream, ask the
      question, and seek the solution.

      You might be most successful at problem solving if you take the
      direct approach. For instance if your problem is shyness, be less
      shy in your dream. If your problem is health, try to heal yourself
      in the dream. Then reflect on how your dream solution relates to the
      waking problem.

      It may help to question other dream characters, especially if
      they represent people who you think might know the answer. For
      example, if you were trying to solve a physics problem, Albert
      Einstein might be a good dream character to query. You can even
      combine this task with the dream spinning and flying tasks, visiting
      an expert on your problem. You can also just explore your dream
      world with your question in mind, looking for any clues that might
      suggest an answer.

      ---Stephen LaBerge and Jayne Gackenbach

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      For those of you who have made it this far, I have just a couple of
      comments. Lucid dreaming is the absolute MOST fun I've ever had,
      and that's saying a lot, since I've had some terrific times while
      awake.

      I can't dream lucidly every night, and if I stop the exercises, it
      takes a couple of days to get things lucid again. If you do try
      lucid dreaming, don't expect results the first night. Give it a few
      days, and keep up the exercises. They really work.

      I've found that it helps me to write down every detail I can recall
      from a dream as soon as I get up in the morning. Then before bed the
      next night, I read those details, making them fresh in my mind. It
      seems to help bring on dreams that night.

      If you have questions or comments about this article, you can leave
      a message on MENHIR BBS at (609)-263-2861. Just leave a comment to
      the sysop.

      PLEASANT DREAMS!
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      That was an excellent read, and both articles do make both interesting and definitive points. The thing that interested me the most was in the first article about consciously confronting subconscious struggles in a rational way, leading to actually changing subconscious thought, and internal struggles. It leads me to believe that the subconscious mind is actually very malleable, because it's constantly thinking, considering, and extrapolating on ideas, thoughts, and emotions, and therefore can be gently guided into thinking differently based on the techniques listed through conscious intervention.

      Theres no dream like the dream of reality.

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      thanks for the read!!

      Ive been having trouble with lucid dreaming actually. For a long time actually, I began to see no point in it. Ive always felt that dreams were meaningful, at least to the extent that they reveal things about your own psyche. Show you how you can be a different person.

      I've had dozens of memorable and meaningful dreams, but only a tiny fraction were lucid. Playing with lucid control, like controlling the environment, or manipulating things quickly bored me. My non lucid dreams are more, spontaneous, mysterious, and leave me wanting more. So these days, Ive been very passive if I have a lucid dream, more like traveling in the dream world rather than trying to manipulate it at every turn

      Its nice to see how you can bring back some of the meaning into a lucid dream rather than just dream control. Ive never really thought about asking dream characters questions.

      The last few times I asked dream characters questions, I got, well, questionable results

      this one dream character had been creating several nightmares. I finally got tired of this dream character creating so many nightmares, and confronted her in a lucid dream. We had a little chat first, and she explained to me, that she was a real person, not a dream character. And that she was in control, not me. Well, I got fed up of her claiming that she was in control of my own head - so I uh - killed her in the lucid dream. But before I did, she begged for mercy and cried out that she meant no real harm.

      She never showed up in my dreams again.

      But she wasn't the last of the dream characters who would tell me, that they were real people. I'm not sure what this means. I mean, I even got the point where I began harassing these self proclaiming real people for their full names, addresses and phone numbers. Just in case I was actually interacting with real dreamers.

      Nothing ever came up of course.

      Were the dream characters saying they are real people, as an aspect of myself? or is it really that no one can remember their bloody house number properly?

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      I'm only halfway through, but it's very good material
      I've been using LDs for combating fears since I was a child, but after reading this, I realise that I wasn't doing it as effectively as possible (ie. it took multiple nightmares of that fear before I properly handled it)
      Tips For Newbies | What to do in an LD

      Unless otherwise stated, views expressed in this post are not necessarily representative of the official Dream Views stance. Hell, it's probably not even representative of me.

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      Tholey was a cool guy. He learned a bunch of acrobatic sports in lucid dreaming:



      And I've learned lucid dreaming from him.

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      amazing reading thanks a lot for sharing!

      I dont agree with this: "The single most destructive advice is to encourage people to manipulate their dreams to have happy endings," Delaney says. "I
      encourage people to use lucidity to explore the dream rather than to control it." In this regard, she believes it is often better for people to start up terrified from a nightmare than to awaken calm from a lucid dream that they have sugarcoated. The nightmare forces the dreamer to recognize that he or she is conflicted or in trouble."

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      This is very important piece of information. Heck I'm glad you brought this out here for us to read up, thankz very much

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      [QUOTE=transflux;937771]Tholey was a cool guy. He learned a bunch of acrobatic sports in lucid dreaming:


      Very nice!.

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