I dont think I Agree!!

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With this explanation! * Astral projection The act of separating the astral body (spirit or consciousness) from the physical body and its journey into the universe. Astral Projection is the intentional act of having the spirit leave the body, whereas an out-of-body experience happens involuntarily (such as while dreaming, or in a near-death experience). When I start a lucid dream, I always come out or push my dream body out of my real body....like a spirit leaving a body you might say. Many years ago i was told it was astral projection but then i read somewhere that ppl think it is real. It is not and it is just a dream. I really dont believe a spirit can leave a body unless it is already dead maybe. Now if you say that it is true then so be it, ppl can write down what they believe to be true. But if it is true then what i do is not astral projection because after i leave my body and im in my own room, then i start the controlling of my dream.....and it is a dream....a Lucid Dream and nothing more! But you say in that explanation that OBE is involuntary and so if it is involuntary then why can i do it whenever i want to do it. As long as i feel the shift that is. I feel the shifting, a tingling feeling, i am still conscious but falling into sleep. I push myself out of my body. I do it intentionally. Then im out of my body and the first thing my dream body does is i always fly out a window to go and explore. Sometimes i walk around the house or do other things but mostly i just fly outside and just go for an adventure. Whatever i decide to do, i control the whole thing and do whatever i want to do and i am completely aware of the fact that im dreaming and i can recall ideas from this forum that i wanted to try.....and then just go do it. So what do you call an intentional out of body experience that is a LD then??