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      Is Lucd Dreaming the way to Break Out of the Matrix?

      Hi Everyone:

      Been wondering, why of all things, you never see the subject of "Lucid Dreaming" in the mainstream media and generally not a thing known by too many. Even the movie "Vanilla Sky" badly screwed up the idea of LD.

      Could it be the controllers/creators of society know that it is from the Lucid Realm that we would be able to change our subconscious and bring that joyful lucid energy back with us to the waking world, thereby breaking their chains of emotional bondage?

      Is this why there's barely any focus on ld and they straight away want to take you to the ASTRAL and OBE world, which is my opinion is not a very wise, safe/clever thing to do, unless of course, maybe I don't fully understand the reason for delving into a place where you are dealing with negative energies.

      Any opionions?

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      Well if that was true then wouldn't the *cough* "creators" kinda shut down this website?

      Not sure how much you belive in this idea of the matrix-esque world being real but...

      Emotional bondage sounds like a kinky way to brighten your day! XD
      Wow, I'm new to this but i knew abouts lucid dreams before...
      But there's so much more to it than I thought!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Splitter View Post
      Well if that was true then wouldn't the *cough* "creators" kinda shut down this website?

      Not sure how much you belive in this idea of the matrix-esque world being real but...

      Emotional bondage sounds like a kinky way to brighten your day! XD

      "cough". Indeed I did think about that, that's why perhaps we shouldn't discuss too much here. It was just an idea I thought I'd pass along.

      Nah, underneath all bondage lies a darkness that is nothing but pure pain. Don't let those fancy, prettied up Bondage Flicks take you into a 'REAL ILLUSION".

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      Quote Originally Posted by Splitter View Post
      Well if that was true then wouldn't the *cough* "creators" kinda shut down this website?

      Not sure how much you belive in this idea of the matrix-esque world being real but...

      Emotional bondage sounds like a kinky way to brighten your day! XD
      Further:

      I'm pretty sure they wouldn't want to shut down the site, as it's more important to find out what ideas are floating around in our minds. So best don't discuss just mull it around for yourselves?!

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      Ohh....
      But i wanted a reveloution

      FINE, looks like I'll go all joan-of-ark and take them down myself!
      But she got burnt...
      Ok

      Looks like I'll go all rambo and destroy them all!
      But maby guns and rippling muscles aren't whats needed...
      Ok

      Looks like I'll go all-Bolloks to it, i'll happily surrender as long as they promise to put a starbucks on every street
      Wow, I'm new to this but i knew abouts lucid dreams before...
      But there's so much more to it than I thought!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Splitter View Post
      Looks like I'll go all-Bolloks to it, i'll happily surrender as long as they promise to put a starbucks on every street


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      Quote Originally Posted by Splitter View Post
      Well if that was true then wouldn't the *cough* "creators" kinda shut down this website?

      Not sure how much you belive in this idea of the matrix-esque world being real but...

      Emotional bondage sounds like a kinky way to brighten your day! XD


      Yeah, I know about this idea about the matrix-esque world not being real. Pretty tricky idea. However, wherever I am and whatever I am feeling at the moment can not help but be real to me.

      There's no getting away from the now/me/myexperiences so yeah, it's pretty real and I must know what it's all about, especially when other people's bull crap can affect me without my permission. One thing for sure I know, is that I am a Creator. Why let the matrix/others use my abilities/power to create a shitty world? Nah, not on my watch.
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      Yes. It is a ploy by our Reptilian Overlords to keep us grounded in the Earth Energies until they reveal themselves in 2012. Once they have blown up the pyramids mankind will never be able to dream again, and we will be forced to spend our lives as slave laborers in the salt mines. Our only chance to avoid this scenario is to have a collective shared lucid dream in which we battle with the Dream Walkers and Night Stalkers and banish them forever from the Astral plane.
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      Interesting as that is. I personally don't believe it's Reptilians. After all, if it were, they would have shown themselves long time ago and achieved their goal, by scarring the crap out of everyone then.

      I do believe it is a group of men who will indeed declare "World Domination" by enacting a fake Alien Invasion, thereby handing over all power to the United Nations in 2012. Notice how they have been subliminally implanting the idea of aliens for a long time.

      Still it does make one wonder who this evil entity/idea/power whatever it is, that these men are working for. Also is it a part of the creator that went awry? The creator/creators went out to dabble in it's/their creation and never thought it would end up this way?

      Indeed it would be lovely to have a collective Lucid Dream in order achieve this goal. However, there are a few lucid dreamers who are into killing, raping and whatever in their lucid experiences. They are not aware of these subconscious implications. Therefore, we don't really want to hook up with their energy. Not that I'm judging them or that they're wrong. It's just that in order to deal with wickedness, I feel a good dose of purity is the only weapon. Perhaps, I think we might need to just work on our individual selves and make ourselves inwardly as powerful as can be in order to deal with this great mystery/puzzle.
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      nothing yet, everything is real.
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      Quote Originally Posted by The Enterer View Post
      Yes. It is a ploy by our Reptilian Overlords to keep us grounded in the Earth Energies until they reveal themselves in 2012. Once they have blown up the pyramids mankind will never be able to dream again, and we will be forced to spend our lives as slave laborers in the salt mines. Our only chance to avoid this scenario is to have a collective shared lucid dream in which we battle with the Dream Walkers and Night Stalkers and banish them forever from the Astral plane.
      Ya, thats what I was gonna say.
      Except you left out the part about combining all the crystal skulls!

      Seriously, lding is not mainstream because its outside of the average persons capacity. Anything that is introspective is always going to be for a select few because the average person is appalled by introspection.

      Even once the concept of lding is known by everyone, most people will still ignore it, or try it a few times and then give up. A good example is meditation, its been around for eons and everyone knows what it is, but very few people are really into it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by lucid4sho View Post

      Seriously, lding is not mainstream because its outside of the average persons capacity. Anything that is introspective is always going to be for a select few because the average person is appalled by introspection.

      Outside of the average persons capacity is also: Math, Sewing, Painting, Different Languages, etc., until they are introduced to and taught about it. So was many religions until it was taken into many countries and taught with dire consequences.


      Quote Originally Posted by lucid4sho View Post
      Even once the concept of lding is known by everyone, most people will still ignore it, or try it a few times and then give up. A good example is meditation, its been around for eons and everyone knows what it is, but very few people are really into it.

      Once the concept of lucid dreaming was known by many on this forum, they DID NOT IGNORE IT, and are trying it more than several times, in order to and are successfully acheiving it.

      Make no mistake about it, not VERY FEW people are really into meditation. Notice it's a word very close to medication. Mind numbing, in order to take people into a NON-SENTIENT, NON-LUCID, ONENESS MENTALITY/WORLD.!!!! The New World Order Religion. Again note, the bible has a story of a demon, when asked what it's name was, it said "we are many. We are "LEGION". Get it RE LEGION. As I've said before, be very careful who you give your mind away to. All is not as "LA LA LA LA LIFE IS BUT A DREAM" as it seems!!



      So why again not the teaching and preaching of the clarity of LUCIDITY!!!
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      Quote Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID View Post
      Outside of the average persons capacity is also: Math, Sewing, Painting, Different Languages, etc., until they are introduced to and taught about it. So was many religions until it was taken into many countries and taught with dire consequences.

      Once the concept of lucid dreaming was known by many on this forum, they DID NOT IGNORE IT, and are trying it more than several times, in order to and are successfully acheiving it.

      Make no mistake about it, not VERY FEW people are really into meditation. Notice it's a word very close to medication. Mind numbing, in order to take people into a NON-SENTIENT, NON-LUCID, ONENESS MENTALITY/WORLD.!!!! The New World Order Religion. Again note, the bible has a story of a demon, when asked what it's name was, it said "we are many. We are "LEGION". Get it RE LEGION. As I've said before, be very careful who you give your mind away to. All is not as "LA LA LA LA LIFE IS BUT A DREAM" as it seems!!

      So why again not the teaching and preaching of the clarity of LUCIDITY!!!

      People would have to be relentlessly forced to practice lding techniques from childhood for it to be something that everyone does regularly. Even then many people would probably not be able to do it. The same goes for advanced math, sewing and painting aren't even comparable.
      "If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa


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      Quote Originally Posted by lucid4sho View Post
      People would have to be relentlessly forced to practice lding techniques from childhood for it to be something that everyone does regularly. Even then many people would probably not be able to do it. The same goes for advanced math, sewing and painting aren't even comparable.

      People have been relentlessly downloaded with Freemasonic His Story since kindergarden and they parrot their miseducation and are happy slaves for the Freemasonic society. I geuss lding wouldn't be of much benefit for them.

      Advanced math, sewing and painting are highly comparable, have you ever seen Bob Ross paintings? Do you know how much training goes into being a painter of that calibre? They are all skills that need to be taught and practiced in order to attain a level of perfection. Actually, lucid dreaming as compared to the aforementioned takes far less time to perfect.

      Also what about bizarre soft porn/evil/murder that's been downloaded into people via the Freemasonic Bible and other religious books, making mankind into zombified, non-thinking fanatics???

      Everything is learnable. It's just what will be beneficial to the Freemasonic society. Again, the freedom and indivduality that comes from lucid dreaming wouldn't be of much benefit to these creeps!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Enterer View Post
      Yes. It is a ploy by our Reptilian Overlords to keep us grounded in the Earth Energies until they reveal themselves in 2012. Once they have blown up the pyramids mankind will never be able to dream again, and we will be forced to spend our lives as slave laborers in the salt mines. Our only chance to avoid this scenario is to have a collective shared lucid dream in which we battle with the Dream Walkers and Night Stalkers and banish them forever from the Astral plane.
      Sounds like a good book.

      I was thinking we'd be going into the digital world... where we have to help our digimon fight -.-
      lol (childhood memories...)

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      Quote Originally Posted by DeathCell View Post
      Sounds like a good book.

      I was thinking we'd be going into the digital world... where we have to help our digimon fight -.-
      lol (childhood memories...)


      Yes and one where upon entering, you cannot leave, for the someone who is in control, has flipped the switch!

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      Quote Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID View Post
      Yes and one where upon entering, you cannot leave, for the someone who is in control, has flipped the switch!
      A good video mentions a way to break out of the Matrix. From my post: Mind over Matter: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBGeo...eature=related

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      oh god, this crap again? i thought i made you leave the forum in your last topic?

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Enterer View Post
      Yes. It is a ploy by our Reptilian Overlords to keep us grounded in the Earth Energies until they reveal themselves in 2012. Once they have blown up the pyramids mankind will never be able to dream again, and we will be forced to spend our lives as slave laborers in the salt mines. Our only chance to avoid this scenario is to have a collective shared lucid dream in which we battle with the Dream Walkers and Night Stalkers and banish them forever from the Astral plane.
      No no no, you've got it all wrong. The freemasons and their ancestors (Xenu being the oldest traced one...) are the ones who originally grounded us in our earthly bodies to receive ancient Egyptian treasures. Lucid dreaming is an escape originally contructed by the heavenly beings of Alpha Centauri to assist the Non Masonian people of Earth to escape their earthly bodies. The reason why it has taken until modern times to discover lucid dreaming is that the Centaurians originally beamed it to us at the dawn of man and the freemasons and due to restrictions on speed imposed by Albert Einstein (a well known freemason) it took the universal thoughtwaves that long to get here. In 2012 The Centaurians will return to earth and free us from our bodies, where we will have a battle with the Freemasons in the dream dimension.

      May you be freed from Xenu's wrath...


      But seriously? Lucid dreaming isn't present in the media much because:
      1. It's too hard.
      2. There's more important stuff going on.
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      Lucid dreaming is when your theten comes out and does what you tell it too, as long as it hasent been blown up by a h-bomb in a volcano
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      Maybe a badly programmed matrix.

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      I'm going to be blunt. You sir, are a first class nutjob.

      All of you conspiracy theorists huddle together and come up with the craziest ideas about what's "really going on", and spew your crap all over people who want nothing to do with it.

      To top it off, whenever anyone decides to speak out against your nonsense, you don't bother to respond to their arguments. You laugh at people and their "naivete", and then continue to ramble on about free masonic world domination plans. Try backing up your arguments with solid data.

      Of course, that's the problem isn't it? So much of the information that you have "gathered" is second hand or not credible. This is, by your logic, because "the creators" are suppressing the flow of truth. However, in actuality you're just a narcissistic chump who has brainwashed yourself with complete nonsense.

      So please, for the sake of myself and other sane members of this forum who enjoy discussing the topic of lucid dreaming, take your pandering nonsense elsewhere.
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      Quote Originally Posted by FatalForces View Post
      Try backing up your arguments with solid data.
      Try pulling your head out of your ass. Maybe you'll see.


      Quote Originally Posted by FatalForces View Post
      I'm going to be blunt. You sir, are a first class nutjob.
      Back atcha!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID View Post
      Try pulling your head out of your ass. Maybe you'll see.



      Back atcha!!
      Good one.



      Seriously, this is ridiculous.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Njd1990 View Post
      Good one.



      Seriously, this is ridiculous.


      Likewise, Back Atcha!!

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