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      Mm, I definitely agree that perception in waking life filters over to dream.

      A question raised by that though, is how are we aware in waking life? Are we lucid? Well, I suppose this generally leads to how do we exist, which is quite unanswerable.
      We take what we get and apply it to itself.

      What my point about asking 'how' is, is that if we can develop 'lucidity' in waking life without a higher tier of waking, then isn't it possible to develop lucidity in a dream without any contribution from waking life?

      Perhaps dream is non-existent without waking life, and is just a projection of waking life. Through looking at the way blind people dream (without sight if blind from birth), then it seems that it would be a projection of perception, regardless of reality (that I know there is sight because I can see, and it is reality, but to a blind person it is still a reality (it has to be because I know I can see), but not a tangible or possibly perceived one).

      So what it comes back to, is how do we project lucidity if it's not 'pre-programmed'? From looking at all of this you see, it comes back to 'how', and in that our perception is cumulative of the past, and that lucidity cannot exist unless it is inbuilt.

      So, I would be led to think that 'lucidity'(awareness), is already inbuilt, since I am aware(I know I am, because I am). So now, why are you not lucid?

      A possible explanation I give for this, is that there are distractions. That one 'becomes what they eat', and that 'awareness' is always at 100%, just divided, and not total.

      This I believe to be root cause of non-lucidity. Divided awareness.
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      This is the reason why we don't have lucid dreams.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Godl!ke View Post
      I completely agree, and it's exactly what I've been saying for a long time.

      I wouldn't say 'attention' though, it's just another layer of thinking required.
      'Lucidity' literally means 'awareness'. Attention is synonymous.

      I haven't read a single tutorial on this website (aside from a link to an OBE tutorial once upon a time). Why I am lucid, is because I am aware.
      Aware with much less division than most people are, and yet I am labelled a 'natural'.

      I think that my perspective of waking life contributes to this automatic awareness directly, yes; though 'natural' is a word that seems to encourage lucidity as going against a person's 'nature' if they don't become lucid without effort.

      I think lucidity has nothing directly to do with effort. There must be a little effort to break the habit of non-lucidity/unawareness at first, but then it becomes sublime.
      Too much focus goes into the techniques and avenues to increase awareness, when awareness is simply undivided attentiveness.
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ClouD View Post
      I completely agree, and it's exactly what I've been saying for a long time.

      I wouldn't say 'attention' though, it's just another layer of thinking required.
      'Lucidity' literally means 'awareness'. Attention is synonymous.

      I haven't read a single tutorial on this website (aside from a link to an OBE tutorial once upon a time). Why I am lucid, is because I am aware.
      Aware with much less division than most people are, and yet I am labelled a 'natural'.

      I think that my perspective of waking life contributes to this automatic awareness directly, yes; though 'natural' is a word that seems to encourage lucidity as going against a person's 'nature' if they don't become lucid without effort.

      I think lucidity has nothing directly to do with effort. There must be a little effort to break the habit of non-lucidity/unawareness at first, but then it becomes sublime.
      Too much focus goes into the techniques and avenues to increase awareness, when awareness is simply undivided attentiveness.
      How does one try to be more aware in their waking life, though? I'm just wondering... is there something you would recommend, specifically, to increase natural, everyday awareness? I mean, obviously I get up, I do my daily routine, I'm aware of my surroundings and what I'm doing... but how can I be even more aware?

      I'm just thinking out loud I guess, but it's something that is making me wonder.

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      I believe it is simply a lack or awareness.

      Through meditation i have found what it means to simply 'be'.

      To be aware, and I a practicing to be aware all of the time.

      I think the reason we dont lucid dream is simply a lack of awareness and questioning of our surroundings .
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      I agree. Most people are caught in routine everyday and don't stop to think about their surroundings or question them. It seems pretty hard to be constantly aware although I think if you do it a few times a day for as long as you can it will improve your LD rate. It has for me anyway. It's almost like becoming lucid in real life, and you have to do the same thing, realise the detail of your surroundings and check to see if you are dreaming.
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      I agree. Most people are caught in routine everyday and don't stop to think about their surroundings or question them. It seems pretty hard to be constantly aware although I think if you do it a few times a day for as long as you can it will improve your LD rate. It has for me anyway. It's almost like becoming lucid in real life, and you have to do the same thing, realise the detail of your surroundings and check to see if you are dreaming.
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      When freedom exists, his body is governed by the whole teachings of his mind... - My subconscious

      When the human race decides to light the world with the mind, they will have no sympathies. - Same as above

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