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      Quote Originally Posted by jleivdal View Post
      explain then how ppl have been known to appear as a physical body to someone when astral travelling
      provide some scientific evidence and I shall eagerly discuss.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      provide some scientific evidence and I shall eagerly discuss.
      i could also ask you to provide scientific proof that obes dont exist, but some things simply cant be explained by science, the sooner humanity figures that one out the faster we'll advance

      but i would have to agree with you to a degree. ever heard of the holographic universe theory? i basically states that the universe is a hologram. the interesting thing about holograms is that in every part of the image, an image of the whole is contained. so one could say that theoretically an image of the whole universe is in our being, so perhaps all we are doing is going inward when astral "projecting"

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      Quote Originally Posted by jleivdal View Post
      i could also ask you to provide scientific proof that obes dont exist, but some things simply cant be explained by science, the sooner humanity figures that one out the faster we'll advance

      but i would have to agree with you to a degree. ever heard of the holographic universe theory? i basically states that the universe is a hologram. the interesting thing about holograms is that in every part of the image, an image of the whole is contained. so one could say that theoretically an image of the whole universe is in our being, so perhaps all we are doing is going inward when astral "projecting"
      don't care, see above ^

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      don't care, see above ^
      hey dude, i thought we were having a debate not an arguement

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      I'm not arguing or debating. I'm reiterating my original stance. Provide some scientific evidence, and I will gladly discuss. Otherwise, I don't really care.

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      alright whatever, i was simply supplying evidence on how obe's may be a fabrication of the mind

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      Quote Originally Posted by jleivdal View Post
      i could also ask you to provide scientific proof that obes dont exist, but some things simply cant be explained by science, the sooner humanity figures that one out the faster we'll advance
      Exactly the same evidence which proves the existence of "god".
      Conveniently enough.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      provide some scientific evidence and I shall eagerly discuss.
      Im with Shift on this one.
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      The only problem I have with your "rant" is that OBEs are real. So are UFOs. Neither do any of these phenomenas mean that aliens are stealing our cows or that the devil sucks you out of your body at night.
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