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    1. #1
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      Aug 2004

      Choline - nutritional dream/sleep-enhancer?

      did some research on dreamchemistry wanted to know what happens in our brains when we dream wondered if there is a possible miracle pill that could help us have easier lucid dreams: found out that our brain is flooded by Acetylcholine Ach a socalled neurotransmitter during dreaming. problem: you cannot take in Ach directly it wont make it in your brain due to a certain barrier in the brain. but Choline is a nutrient that is a precursor to the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, which the brain is flooded with during REM sleep.
      it is now 2 months since i am taking 600mg choline (sustained release 40% better absorption). in the mean time i have to say that the strongest effect is on my sleep-wake-rhythm: i used to sleep from 2am to 10am. since taking every day choline i get tired about 10pm - then i still stay up until 11pm - but then latest by 12pm i'm dozing off... and wake up refreshed by 7am or 8am...... most people would enjoy this - for me it is actually a bit ennoying/disturbing because my entire social life starts generally not before 9pm until.....
      but it shows me clearly that choline really does have an effect on the brainchemistry - especially since it is the basic substance for synthesizing acetylcholine Ach - which is most important in for memory & concentration - as well as dreaming. all in all a good experience - will continue and finish the bottle - i would recommend it especially for poeple with chronic fatigue, concentrationproblems combined with sleeponset disorder. i really think that the choline is doing its job: deeper sleep, feel more rested in the morning, more dreams, longer, clearer, more colorful.
      would be interested if other people could verify that.

      here 2 links on which i based my experiment:

      (fundamental dreamresearch)

      (nutritional info by a M.D.)

      hypnos 8)

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      Aug 2004
      At the bottom of the sea .
      Yes i use it for ages already...i noticed choline in bitartrate form gives a little bit more lds and
      choline as phosphatidyl choline gives more colour and more vividness in my dreams.
      So is more related to rem sleep dreams.
      Your Dreams are Truly Yours!


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