Thread: Lucid Dreams = Lucid Trips? An Experiment...

What he was talking about with the 4-5 hrs thing is on those incredibly strong trips (level 5ish) you still have some effects after like your head feels throbbing and you still have some minor hallucinations and a different kind of overall body sensation and stuff like that for a very long time after the trip.

although there are different levels of tripping on salvia, that one being on the more intense side of the spectrum.

Ya, alot of people who haven't done it properly, in low doses, haven't done enough to get a strong trip yet, etc. don't realize that the stronger effects are actually incredible. At the lower effects it kind of reminds me of the mush hallucinations to an extent but it starts to become way more intense and directly alter your consciousness and existence after a certain point like your brain's being pulled out of this dimension. I don't think alot of people have experienced the full effects.

You can kind of control the salvia trip to an extent with experience. If you're feeling frightened, nervous, sad, etc. the trip will be more dark, scary, nightmarish. If you go in without restraints it's much more likely to be one of those mind-opening trips. Also I noticed if you kind of "focus" on the trip when you have a high level one (level 4+?) and just relax and not get distracted by outside things (some people watch movies and this and that) the trip will become more intense and start to make more sense. This all depends on how strong of a trip you're having of course since sometimes you'll just get knocked out with those "break-through" trips and sometimes you will have almost no or very weak effects. (Edit: Ya, basically like the dream "emotion" analogy Cusp described)

I also noticed on those trips that aren't too strong (good enough that you still kind of know what's going on) if you are with a friend (it's not a party drug so not the idiots making noise and bugging you that actually makes the trip MUCH worse) you kind of start influencing what the other is seeing by talking about it.

Wow, i am excited that i have gotten so many insightful replies. Some of your replies are very encouraging specially the ones from those of you who have tried this before with some success, the ones about salvia being too intense are kinda feeding my fear that I will lose all control once im under the effects of salvia...but hey, im glad to hear both sides since im not so sure what will happen.
I havent had time to write down my experience with a low dose of salvia and i still havent tried to completely dive into it either (Im a college student and ive had so much work due im barely back on track ) but i will have something for you guys to read by the end of this week. Thanks for your suggestions and encouragements, i am feeling just a slight bit more confident that this will work...though i might need a few tries

Newmoon - thanks for the whole lighter clarification Also, i forgot there are different ways to ingest salvia so i should have specified im using leaves that are a 20x concentration.

Psilocybe Psychopath - Ive always had trouble "letting go" on salvia i always begin to panic just before i start tripping that is probably why ive always had pretty dark trips on it i guess. Any suggestions on how i could "let go" a little easier?
That is really interesting that you see recurring entities because that happens to me too! I know i read somewhere online about this happening to other salvia users but since then i havent been able to find this info again so im really excited to hear about your experience if you dont mind. The recurring entity i always encounter is a clown, like the kind you see at a carnival...so the scary kind. Its strange because he seems to be my "guide" since hes always the first to show up but its like he likes to play tricks on me and delights in watching me be afraid...are your entities anything like this?
Ive had non-lucid dreams where i trip on acid, i agree with MRFantasy that your brain can mimick certain drugs, ive never tried that while being in a lucid dream however, now i gotta try it. thanks for the idea!

Blueman18 - What??

The Cusp - I think maybe you misunderstood what im trying to do, or im misunderstanding you? I want to remain lucid while tripping on salvia, which based on my previous experiences is pretty much impossible. Im not trying to use salvia to have lucid dreams. Ive never tried using emotions to influence DC, actually ive never really thought too much about DCs when im lucid, they come off as empty shells and i just havent thought much about them but your suggestion sounds interesting. Im gonna have to give something like that a shot though i might have to pick a different local than a mall since i cant recall ever dreaming about being there...ever.

I also wanted to say that ive read on other threads that alcohol and/or marijuana will affect your ability to be lucid or even recall dreams, however, i use marijuana kinda really frequently(daily) and ive always been able to have very vivid dreams, very vivid lucid dreams, and a few nights ago i was drunk AND stoned and i had one of the most vivid and longest lucid dreams ive ever had! So, yea, maryjane wont take your lucids away!