Thread: LD'ing not as popular

Originally Posted by CrescentFox

Hidden it is possible to induce nightmares, there was a post on it a while ago. I remember one of the users said that if you want it that badly, get 5-6 hours of sleep, wake up, and look an an image that disturbs you for a LONG time. Afterwards go back to bed and you should have a nightmare. One user said to find a poster with a scary image and attach it to your ceiling to wake up to.

-tries to imagine an image that's disturbing enough to induce a nightmare- o.0 No thanks.

Why would you want to induce nightmares?

I was actually just curious. As to why someone else would want to induce a nightmare, I don't know. Both facing fears and excitement (although nightmares are rarely exciting for me, just scary) can be achieved through a lucid dream.

Originally Posted by mysterious dreamer

Why would you want to induce nightmares?

When you've had so many LDs and have done just about everything you can conceive of in them, trust me, you'll want to induce a nightmare too!

It's on my list of goals, just got a few more things to do first while lucid

The reason I want to is essentially that I'll know it's not real so won't be scared but will find it fascinating to observe the different style dreamscape and fun to overpower whatever is nightmarish and/or threatening.

I wouldn't say lucid dreaming was ever "popular", per se. I mean, I first learned about it back when I was a senior in high school...which was back in '06. On my final day of class, my English teacher (who was awesome) told the class about it. I'll bet anything that out of that entire class, I was the only one who ever went on to pursue lucid dreaming.

But then again, can you really blame people for giving up on LDing so early on? It's not something attributable to simple laziness - I've personally found that the more I actively try to LD, the more sleep I lose, and considering the average American only gets 7 hours of sleep (which is almost not enough), you can't really fault people on not wanting to invest their valuable sleep time.

Actually come to think of it I'm kind of glad lucid dreaming isn't popular now. It just makes me feel slightly more unique and to be honest I don't think very many people deserve to even expirience lucid dreaming.

CrescentFox: Ouch, that's harsh. I think that if you're willing to work for it, you deserve to experience a LD (I suppose there might be some exceptions). But I agree about feeling more unique, even though it doesn't count for much in society.

DreamQueen: Really? I wish I were at that point. I haven't even flown yet. Every time I've become lucid I've tried to go to a certain place, a field with a few tall trees that I thought up awhile ago while trying to imagine the perfect place to fly. I'm thinking next time I'll just take off where ever I happen to be.

Lezen: You have a point. Personally, I've found that trying to lucid dream has motivated me to get to bed early so I'm more likely to succeed. I used to hate going to bed, because it meant the day was over and I would soon have to wake up for school. Now I still hate knowing I have to wake up, but there's a pretty bright silver lining.

i never heard about lucid dreaming till like a year ago.

i read a forum post and the last sentence in that post was:

"... or you could learn to control your dreams (yes it is possible!)"

somehow that sentence stuck with me i had some deja vu moments before and was curious about dreams alrdy so a day later i typed "controlling dreams" into google and dreamviews popped up where i learned about lucid dreaming.

but outside of that i never heard of this topic so no it is not popular at all.

but yeah i think its mostly fear to be different why it is not popular.
i know i didnt tell anyone so far about it, cause i m pretty sure if it werent for certain experiences i would prolly dismiss it as well as 3rd age stuff if someone told me

yeah I definitely couldn't agree with this any less. I've spread it around, and occasionally I find some one who freaks out as much as me about it.

I would have never even heard of lucid dreaming if I hadn't stumbled upon it while trying to find information on how to fall asleep quickly.

Originally Posted by CrescentFox

and to be honest I don't think very many people deserve to even expirience lucid dreaming.

Really? What is it about them that should determine whether or not they deserve the experience?

I am one of those lucky people who consistently have lucid dreams. I had always thought that everyone had them, and it wasn't until a little over a year ago when I did some casual Internet searching that I realized that many people haven't even heard of them.

Originally Posted by Kadal

I am one of those lucky people who consistently have lucid dreams. I had always thought that everyone had them, and it wasn't until a little over a year ago when I did some casual Internet searching that I realized that many people haven't even heard of them.

That's cool! I've always wondered though... Since you've had them for as long as you can remember, does that make them seem less special/amazing than if you'd never experienced one before? Like TV; it's not that amazing for me because I grew up with it, but for someone who's never heard of it before it would be a novelty. Then again, I guess you wouldn't have ever experienced "discovering" lucid dreaming for the first time.

Since everyone is asking I will give a broad answer, I just really HATE lots of people in general. I'm not saying they don't deserve to be happy or anything, but I seriously just don't think they deserve the expirience of lucid dreaming. Sorry, it's just a personal view. Forget I said anything.

I've had pretty positive response when talking to my friends about lucid dreaming. I guess you have to know When to talk about it. If someone tells you about a really weird dream, or maybe he read a carlos castaneda book or he is an artist looking for inspiration... they will appreciate the subject. Of course if your friends are some stupid teenagers who find "freaky" everything thats not in Mtv well I guess you will seem weird.

What bothers my friends is not so much that I talk about LD but that I talk too much about it.

Originally Posted by Hidden

That's cool! I've always wondered though... Since you've had them for as long as you can remember, does that make them seem less special/amazing than if you'd never experienced one before? Like TV; it's not that amazing for me because I grew up with it, but for someone who's never heard of it before it would be a novelty. Then again, I guess you wouldn't have ever experienced "discovering" lucid dreaming for the first time.

I suppose that the lucidity itself doesn't seem as special to me as it does to others, but I am continually amazed at the level of control it is possible to achieve. I am also very grateful for being able to attain lucidity without effort, as I have seen on this site that many people have trouble with it.

Originally Posted by Kadal

I supposed the lucidity itself doesn't seem as special to me as it does to others, but I am continually amazed at the level of control it is possible to achieve. I am also very grateful for being able to attain lucidity without effort, as I have seen on this site that many people have trouble with it.

I'd be grateful too. The rest of us can be grateful that we don't have to come up with our own LD induction techniques, and that it's possible to LD without being a natural.

Interesting thread. I think it is more popular in that it is in the popular culture more. I think there is a threshold of resistance to it though, and always will be, because 1) people think that it is escapist and 2) unconsciously they can sense it threatens our assumptions about waking reality.

Maybe it once was popular wherever you live, but where I live... Never heard of it... Actually, the only reason I discovered it was my natural interest into normal dreams. My brother's friend's girlfriend lucid dreams apperently... My brother told me thsi but when I tried to talk about it again he said he never told me this... Maybe it was a dream O.o

My mom thinks I'm not living in the real world. She hates it that I LD 'cause "it won't bring me anywhere in REAL life"

I think that if its not popular in your region, its probably because all the work you have to do to achieve good lucidness and control of your dreams. Most people might find it too hard and maybe even think that its not even possible.

Me per exemple. I stopped for more than a week now because I'm too busy but I'm REALLY ashamed of myself for it because LDs where what I've been looking for all my life, there the BEST!

I think that , while most people have had one, people do not realize that lucid dreaming can be induced. Can you imagine what would happen if ever there was a drug that is 100% effective in inducing lucid dreams? Do you think it would be banned? I do.

Originally Posted by faceonmars

I think that , while most people have had one, people do not realize that lucid dreaming can be induced. Can you imagine what would happen if ever there was a drug that is 100% effective in inducing lucid dreams? Do you think it would be banned? I do.

Why would it be banned? Unless it did something bad as well as inducing a lucid dream, I don't see why people would bother with banning it.

I've known about lucid dreaming for almost 30 years now and it has never really been popular. Not mainstream popular at least.

I've given up on sharing with people IRL. On occasion, someone will ask me about it, but it seems they have no more than passing interest.

Go figure. Lucid dreaming is the ultimate vacation/escape/mind game in the universe. I personally cannot understand why everyone doesn't want in on it.

Free all expense paid vacation.

Originally Posted by Hidden

Why would it be banned? Unless it did something bad as well as inducing a lucid dream, I don't see why people would bother with banning it.

I think governments would want to study it for 20 or 30 years (lol) to observe the long term effects.

Does anyone know why people aren't interrested into Lucid Dreams? I've tried everything to get my family into LDing but they keep just wanting to have a dark night with nothing else thand black... It really annoys me. Then they say that I should come and leave in the real world and stop my fantasies.... URGH!

Originally Posted by SleepyCookieDough

Does anyone know why people aren't interrested into Lucid Dreams? I've tried everything to get my family into LDing but they keep just wanting to have a dark night with nothing else thand black... It really annoys me. Then they say that I should come and leave in the real world and stop my fantasies.... URGH!

I think its the natural inclination of unenlightened individuals to immediately wake up when in LD. I have learned over the years how to stay in the moment and find them to be joyess events. Even the ones that start out a little weird are fasinating to me. I love the flying, and high jumping, and always awaken with a smile on my face. I do recall, when i had my first one over 40 years ago, being a little taken aback. People fear what they don't understand. I believe that the sleep studies community has taken on lucid dreaming as FACT. Its hard to deny something that virtually everyone has experienced to some degree. IMHO

Originally Posted by faceonmars

I think its the natural inclination of unenlightened individuals to immediately wake up when in LD. I have learned over the years how to stay in the moment and find them to be joyess events. Even the ones that start out a little weird are fasinating to me. I love the flying, and high jumping, and always awaken with a smile on my face. I do recall, when i had my first one over 40 years ago, being a little taken aback. People fear what they don't understand. I believe that the sleep studies community has taken on lucid dreaming as FACT. Its hard to deny something that virtually everyone has experienced to some degree. IMHO

I don't think everyone's afraid of lucid dreaming. I can see that if you don't know what you can do with it you might not be interested, but I don't understand why most people won't even give it a try after they've been told all that LDing can do.