Thread: Does the mere act of coming here help foster LD'S ?

Yes, i believe it does.
See my thread (after all the dream description at the bottom)
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=76832

I agree that I THINK coming here works. However, playing D.Advocate I'll also say ..
We are going with sheer logic when we say,

"Yes the mere act of coming here helps increase lucid dream incidents".

It seems logical but there's no emperical data to support that claim. In fact, we could propose a counter theory which says that thinking about lucid dreaming reduces the frequency of lucid dreams. How?

Sure, it seems that the more you are enveloped in a subject or environment, the more likely you are to DREAM about it. However, as we've discovered, lucid dreams are very strange critters. Could there be a reason why it's not easy to have them? Could the mind in fact prefer that we did NOT have them?

They keep coming up with new theories on why we must sleep and dream. Maybe the mind does whatever it does to "cleanse" our subconscious by KNOCKING US UNCONSCIOUS every night. Maybe by interrupting that cleansing process by forcing ourselves "awake" during the cleansing process .. maybe the mind does whatever it can to prevent us from awakening in a dream.

All that to say .. if that theory is true, the mind (since it's smarter than we are) might fight any attempt that we consciously make to make lucid dreams happen. That would apply to thinking about lucid dreaming, learning about lucid dreaming, hooking yourself up to that infamous lucid dreaming machine (Nova mask), etc.

Ok. Enough devil's advocate. Logically I believe that immersion in lucid dream topics might help in creating them but .. data-wise, I have no data to support that. I once went to one of Stephen's workshops. He looks just as other-worldly in person as he does in his photos. I forget his possible position on this subject but I bet that the mere act of listening to him in a classroom setting surely helped a lot of folks in attendance have a few after the workshop was over.

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...89&postcount=1 Which is why I asked you what you mean, I have a tad bit of evidence (only for myself) and at least in terms of education, DV makes a huge difference when it comes to lucid dreaming. If you mean just browsing to get your mind on the topic, I'm not sure. I guess if I were really ambitious one day I could look at my daily post count versus my LDs. Of course you'd have to factor in things like stress, DJ, hours of sleep. But yea that's why I asked. In terms of the knowledge it provides...

That's a lot of dreams you've having. I wish my graph looked like that. In fact, I don't even have a graph. That's how active my LD life is.
I meant, the mere act of coming here. Making a conscious effort to say,

"There's this place that talks about lucid dreaming. A lot. I'm going there."

It seems that just doing that and reading even a few NON-informational posts might assist in putting the mind in "ready-mode" especially if you do it right before you head to bed. Again though, that's a theory based on logic.
"Logically" it seems that that's the way it should work. Sometimes however, as in the quantum world for example, logic flies out the window and counter-intuitive facts and forces shape reality. Logically it shouldn't be possible to kill yourself drinking
water, the giver of life but .. it's happened.

From that point then yes, who knows. WBTBs are always recommended to be spent checking out DV, updating your dreamjournal, etc. I think it's generally assumed that this will help, but who knows for sure.

Originally Posted by Lucid Lobster

LLogically it shouldn't be possible to kill yourself drinking water, the giver of life but .. it's happened.

Only if you don't know anything about physiology. It makes perfect sense that over consumption of water would make you ill or kill you. Water doesn't give life to people drowning in it, either... It's just a molecule.

Which raises the question .. would over consumption of bread kill you. It's a substance similar to water only it's flat and white and soft and comes in loaves. You would think that od'ing on Mrs Baird's would be impossible because logically you'd reach a point where you couldn't swallow another slice. I doubt if many people knew or even know about that sodium/brain expansion thing that can put you in a coffin if you drink to much H2O. That would be an interesting way to commit suicide though. Nobody would ever know that you meant to do it. Especially if the water was flavored. I might try that the next LD that I have (which could be tonight if indeed post count is proportional to LD count).

Coming to dv and reading/thinking about LDs does seem to make a difference to me. Even more so is reading books on the subject. I had some of my most amazing and consistent LDs while I was reading ETWOLD.