Thread: Uberman Sleep Schedule?

1. You might have heard of the somewhat famous Uberman Sleep Schedule by now. If you haven't, then you should know that all it is is sleeping 2 hours a day in 4 hour intervals of 20 minute sleep periods (6 per day). Since this irregular-sleep-wake-pattern consists of only REM sleep, would it be essentially possible to have 6 lucid dreams every day?

2. The Uberman schedule disrupts the cycle of the circadian rhythm, irregularities in the circadian rhythm disrupt the production of melatonin and melanopsin, whose lack during the applicable sleep cycles is said to cause damage to brain (and potentially, non-brain) tissue, specifically inducing cancer. If that's really true, does that mean that the Uberman sleep schedule significantly increases your risk of cancer?

3. We all know that melanopsin, for the most part, is produced in significantly higher quantities when your retinas aren't processing high-lux color wavelengths or, of course, high-luminance light. We also know that blind people don't see either color or light (obviously). And as I just stated, the lack of melanopsin or melatonin can cause cancer. Does that mean that blind people are also at a far higher risk for cancer?

Someone should really do a study on this or something.

That sounds like a really bad idea...first of all, it would be just about impossible to work around any normal schedule. Second, the sheer willpower required makes the option sound wholly unappealing. Third, the body needs non-REM sleep. Fourth, sleeping like that would probably not consist entirely of REM sleep. Fifth, you'd still have to realize that you're dreaming, no small task in and of itself. Sixth, melatonin is produced all day long by the body, and I believe is used to assist in falling asleep. Seventh, WTF?

I would say that your best bet is to read ETWOLD and follow some of LaBerge's advice...lucid dreams are no reason to kill yourself. There's nothing wrong with a few a week, and if you put in enough effort and stick with it long enough, you can still have multiple lucids per night.

Sorry if I sound a touch grumpy...it's late out.

Originally Posted by Mario92

That sounds like a really bad idea...first of all, it would be just about impossible to work around any normal schedule. Second, the sheer willpower required makes the option sound wholly unappealing. Third, the body needs non-REM sleep. Fourth, sleeping like that would probably not consist entirely of REM sleep. Fifth, you'd still have to realize that you're dreaming, no small task in and of itself. Sixth, melatonin is produced all day long by the body, and I believe is used to assist in falling asleep. Seventh, WTF?
I would say that your best bet is to read ETWOLD and follow some of LaBerge's advice...lucid dreams are no reason to kill yourself. There's nothing wrong with a few a week, and if you put in enough effort and stick with it long enough, you can still have multiple lucids per night.
Sorry if I sound a touch grumpy...it's late out.

Well, the Uberman cycle has been supposedly tested and is in use to this day by a number of people, so it's definitely possible. From what I've read about it, the human body can't be rested enough to function on a daily basis with 2 hours of sleep unless it's all REM, hence why this schedule works. Melatonin is produced all day long, true, but moreso during the sleeping hours. My question didn't ask if that was a good way to have LD's, but whether or not it was even possible.

Originally Posted by Invader

According to what you said, wouldn't being blind put one at a lower risk of cancer?
Well, to answer question #1, potentially yes. You could theoretically have an LD every 6 hours, or in whatever quantity you choose to have your naps
depending on which polyphasic sleep schedule you tend to.
There's a bit of info on polyphasic sleep, if thou wilt but google it.

Blind people don't produce melanopsin properly, thus leaving them with a messed up circadian rhythm. And as I stated, that puts you at a risk of cancer. Their risk is even higher, though, because they're likely to enter free-running sleep, without any pattern, so their circadian rhythm will be totally off.
I googled it, wiki-ed it, etc. before I even posted this.

Originally Posted by Flashdance

The forum search tool is your friend

I used it; none of the results had any of my questions.

first off thanks VBAnetwork for introducing me to this concept! I did a lot of surfing these last days and came up with this

I have started following a derivative technique called "Everyman2"
that is described here:
http://dustincurtis.com/sleep.html
it is not as extreme as Uberman yet still pretty awesome assuming I'll get it to work for me


LD's are POSSIBLE with polyphasic dreaming - in fact people who practice polyphasic dreaming experience them as a side effect
http://www.lifetrainingonline.com/bl...-log-day-5.htm

last night and into today has been by far the best day yet. I wasn’t quite sure if the improvement of Day 4 in my polyphasic-sleep experiment was just a fluke or if it indeed was the first signs of adaptation. But after tonight, I can now definitely say that I’m getting out of the mental ‘haze’ and stepping into clarity.

Last night also marks the first lucid dream since starting this experiment. Lucid dreaming is one of those ’side-effects’ that people say they experience on the Uberman schedule. I was curious to see if this also was the case on the Everman schedule.

For those unfamiliar with lucid dreaming, it is a dream where you are aware that you are dreaming while the dream is in progress. Depending on how long you are ‘awake’ in your dream, you can actually do some pretty cool things like control the scenery, interact and control characters in the dream, perform special powers like flying around and so on. I’m no stranger to lucid dreaming — I’ve been doing it on-and-off since my childhood (probably on average twice a year). However, the combination of the vividness of the dreams since doing this experiment and the fact that I was lucid really made for some intense dreams. I’ll be pretty excited if this becomes a regular pattern.

Originally Posted by Mario92

. Seventh, WTF?

Best answer ever

I also heard of that Different Sleep shedules, in fact you are not allowed to drink alcohol or coffee, as it would lead to breaking the habit. In addition to that, I once asked in this forum if anyone tried it, and one guy mentioned he tried it for one month, and the first week was horrible.

All in all,I think it is not worth to do something like that

Thorim

Originally Posted by Thorim

and the first week was horrible.

yeah I've been watching youtube logs of ppl adapting to this sleep schedule and seems that at first it's hard but after you adapt it's natural.

The forum search tool is your friend: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/search.php

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...hlight=uberman

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...hlight=uberman

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...hlight=uberman

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...hlight=uberman

Originally Posted by VBAnetwork

3. We all know that melanopsin, for the most part, is produced in significantly higher quantities when your retinas aren't processing high-lux color wavelengths or, of course, high-luminance light. We also know that blind people don't see either color or light (obviously). And as I just stated, the lack of melanopsin or melatonin can cause cancer. Does that mean that blind people are also at a far higher risk for cancer?

According to what you said, wouldn't being blind put one at a lower risk of cancer?

Well, to answer question #1, potentially yes. You could theoretically have an
LD every 6 hours, or in whatever quantity you choose to have your naps
depending on which polyphasic sleep schedule you tend to.

There's a bit of info on polyphasic sleep, if thou wilt but google it.