Thread: Is ANYTHING possible in a LD?

well it seems the general concensus is that if you can't do something or you find it difficult then its because you have heard it was difficult but I still think you can struggle with things all on your own.

Originally Posted by Hypnagogia

well it seems the general concensus is that if you can't do something or you find it difficult then its because you have heard it was difficult but I still think you can struggle with things all on your own.

Right, it is all about freeing your mind. It doesn't matter if you heard that it was difficult from someone else or from yourself. It is like in the Matrix when Morpheus jumps across to the rooftop across the street and tells Neo to free his mind and jump. Learning these things is just freeing your mind. I think the great thing about lucid dreaming is not that you can gratify all your cravings and desires but that you can free your mind. That is my mission.

Multiply yourself, go to heaven, go to hell, turn mountains into molehills, turn rivers into snakes, swallow planets, turn into a skeleton, turn into a cauliflower. Make love to an octopus.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

Right, it is all about freeing your mind. It doesn't matter if you heard that it was difficult from someone else or from yourself. It is like in the Matrix when Morpheus jumps across to the rooftop across the street and tells Neo to free his mind and jump. Learning these things is just freeing your mind. I think the great thing about lucid dreaming is not that you can gratify all your cravings and desires but that you can free your mind. That is my mission.

Multiply yourself, go to heaven, go to hell, turn mountains into molehills, turn rivers into snakes, swallow planets, turn into a skeleton, turn into a cauliflower. Make love to an octopus.

I don't disagree with this. I just disagree that the light switch/electronics problem is a myth (ie an invented claim), its just an example of someone who hasn't 'freed their mind' to allow proper control of it as you said Dannon.

Originally Posted by youssarian

Have you never watched Doug?

I used to love Doug!

Not everything is possible.
Everything imaginable is possible.

Yea I would agree with that, dreams are already a lot a like the 4th dimension. Its easy to experience dreams in the higher dimensions, because dreams are really chaotic. You teleport around randomly, are in multiple places at once, and do all sort of weird stuff.

I think the light switch myth is just an extension of the, you can't read in dreams myth. With an updated appearance, because people don't read as much.

Saying 'it's impossible' to read or turn off the lights is close minded. But it can be hard. Frankly I never cared to even try to turn the lights on or off. I just call in the light! Let there be light! But it is hard to read, but I have done it.

Originally Posted by IndigoGhost

Its not a myth from personal experience, I have tried them before and i cannot do either. have you got evidence to prove the opposite?

Have you tried the clapper? That's worked for me in the past.

I use laptops in lucids and I have read whole pages of text on screens and on paper. It is more rare but it's possible.


As for the limitations of dreams, I'd say that they're mainly only limited by the dreamer. That is, if the dreamer has certain mental blocks or fears or limitations like no visualization skills, then they will find they can't do certain things.

Originally Posted by Metaphyz1k

Not everything is possible.
Everything imaginable is possible.

Awesome way of putting it.

Originally Posted by Shift

I hate that myth.

Me three. who's the 2nd?

Well, For me two things don't add up. Its easy to visualize lights on and off because its physically easy to do while awake, also i was not told beforehand that i couldn't.

May be because in all my dreams the contrast of light and dark is much more extreme then in waking life and may be effecting my in dream function.

I agree in that in some cases a non functioning lightswitch could be the result of an unconcouis belief that it will not work because said dreamer heard it would not work. I however believe that it depends on 2 things: The dreamers familiarity with the area they wish to lighten, and also the dreamers experience with LDing. Back when I was first experimenting with LDing I found it much easier to work a light switch in a familiar area such as a room in my home. I found it much more difficult in a strange invironment. I think this is because I was familiar with the layout of the room and it was easy for my brain to manifest the room at the speed of light. Trying to turn on a lightswitch is very similar to imagining things into existance which many people find difficult. It is even harder to imagine an entire room into existance. This all of couse depends on the darkness level of the room before the switch is turned on. I find it easier to work a light switch when I can make out the room to some degree before the light is turned on. If your really having trouble lighting the area your at in during a LD, try yelling "LET THERE BE LIGHT" with confidence that it will lighten the room. Or make the light switch a knob, that slowely lights the room not all at once. These have both worked for me.

I'm sorry but I must have missed the post with that guy who said all lights and electronics are impossible in dreams.

If I find it I'll reply and say that is a myth.

I think electronic may not work 100 percent if the dream is not LUCID, but may change once you are

I have had troubles with my camera and my PC in dreams but I think it just mirrors my stupid luck in waking life, not some fault of dream electronics.

I used an iPhone in an non-LD. The scrolling through screens worked perfectly with exactly the same motion as in real life. The screen was a little dark. I didn't make any calls or used any apps, but it seemed to work fine.

I believe that anything is possible in a lucid dream, you just have to believe you can do it. In a lucid dream I had last night, I tried flying but it was all black and I didn't move from my spot. This could be misleading, seeing as I got a little excited when I realized I was dreaming.