Thread: Is ANYTHING possible in a LD?

Ok so I've given some thought to the idea of trying to make possible the impossible in my LDs. But I've noticed there are two categories of impossible the first one that everyone talks about: flying, shapeshifting, being beheaded and doing the robot dance afterwards etc which is merely impossible in real life but pretty easily dreamed and then theres this second category of what I believe to be the truly impossible (and I'd like to see if anyone agrees/disagrees with me): being omnipotent (like being everywhere at the same time) and visualizing 4th dimensions or higher and having multiple conversations or doing more than one thing consciously at the same time.

I came to the conclusion that you can't do everything that your mind conceptualizes, I mean sure I understand the idea of being everywhere at the same time but I couldn't do it even in my imagination world and sure I've read books on higher dimensions particulary the 4th dimension but theres no way of ever imagining it even in my dreams.

So at the end of the day their really are limits to what you can do in your LDs IMO.

Not that I want to sound ungrateful for the amazing possiblilties and fun you can still have though!

I actually have had a LD where I had split into two different people and was doing two different things at once. I had two different fields of vision and it was unlike anything I had ever experienced before. It is somewhere in my DJ...I'm too lazy to look right now . I too couldn't imagine (even now after I've done it) having two different fields of vision with neither getting in the way of (or distracting) the other, but I did it in my dream. I didn't even try to do it on purpose, it just happened. However, I have tried to do it again with no success. I've also read in someones DJ here, where they performed this (can't remember who it was). SOmeone also performed 360 degree vision, which I also couldn't imagine. The brain is an extraordinarily powerful tool.

Anything short of useing electronics and turning on and off lights.

Originally Posted by KingYoshi

I actually have had a LD where I had split into two different people and was doing two different things at once. I had two different fields of vision and it was unlike anything I had ever experienced before. It is somewhere in my DJ...I'm too lazy to look right now . I too couldn't imagine (even now after I've done it) having two different fields of vision with neither getting in the way of (or distracting) the other, but I did it in my dream. I didn't even try to do it on purpose, it just happened. However, I have tried to do it again with no success. I've also read in someones DJ here, where they performed this (can't remember who it was). SOmeone also performed 360 degree vision, which I also couldn't imagine. The brain is an extraordinarily powerful tool.

Wow thats really cool, I'm glad I'm wrong about that because I would really like to experience it.

Originally Posted by IndigoGhost

Anything short of useing electronics and turning on and off lights.

lmao

Originally Posted by IndigoGhost

Anything short of useing electronics and turning on and off lights.

I hate that myth.

Originally Posted by Shift

I hate that myth.

Its not a myth from personal experience, I have tried them before and i cannot do either. have you got evidence to prove the opposite?

Yea, I've accomplished both. Don't let other peoples' ideas limit your LD abilities though, it's not worth it.

Originally Posted by IndigoGhost

Its not a myth from personal experience, I have tried them before and i cannot do either. have you got evidence to prove the opposite?

Ive got some too. Actually, I have yet to fail at doing either. Electronics always work perfectly for me, even my watch (more than once it has even actually kept the correct time, or at least very close!), and turning the lights on and off in an LD is no more difficult than flipping a switch IRL...I dont know. Maybe its just because I work around electronics so much and know how they work well enough to be able to duplicate it in a dream. And I almost never forget what a location looks like, so I can just remember how things should look when the light comes back on.

Originally Posted by Shift

I hate that myth.

I don't think its a myth. Its just that it seems to happen a lot in non-LDs.

No, it's an actual myth. I think Hearne started it, and most people will agree that it's an absolute LD law even though it's nothing of the sort Hopefully it doesn't seem like it is because people are coming around...

Originally Posted by Shift

I hate that myth.

Me three. who's the 2nd?

Well, For me two things don't add up. Its easy to visualize lights on and off because its physically easy to do while awake, also i was not told beforehand that i couldn't.

May be because in all my dreams the contrast of light and dark is much more extreme then in waking life and may be effecting my in dream function.

Originally Posted by IndigoGhost

Anything short of useing electronics and turning on and off lights.

Yeah, electronics and lights can be annoying and not work properly sometimes but most people have used electronics or turned lights on/off in a dream before.

Originally Posted by Hypnagogia

Ok so I've given some thought to the idea of trying to make possible the impossible in my LDs. But I've noticed there are two categories of impossible the first one that everyone talks about: flying, shapeshifting, being beheaded and doing the robot dance afterwards etc which is merely impossible in real life but pretty easily dreamed and then theres this second category of what I believe to be the truly impossible (and I'd like to see if anyone agrees/disagrees with me): being omnipotent (like being everywhere at the same time) and visualizing 4th dimensions or higher and having multiple conversations or doing more than one thing consciously at the same time.

I came to the conclusion that you can't do everything that your mind conceptualizes, I mean sure I understand the idea of being everywhere at the same time but I couldn't do it even in my imagination world and sure I've read books on higher dimensions particulary the 4th dimension but theres no way of ever imagining it even in my dreams.

So at the end of the day their really are limits to what you can do in your LDs IMO.

Not that I want to sound ungrateful for the amazing possiblilties and fun you can still have though!

It depends from person to person IMO. Some can do it because they have disciplined the mind to visualize it even without experiencing it in real life but it takes alot of effort. Like for me I can't make things appear but people here keep saying they can...so I guess it can be done. The categories actually there are like you said 2. But from what I know...the 2 are real memory expereinces stored in your subconcious and the other one which is pure idea/thought which you din't really experience it but are aware of it. Things like the 4th dimension and other stuff that your mind makes up/imagine belongs to the latter and is tough..because dreams are very experience based. The 4th dimension is also abstract, it is not a real experience and so is the idea of lucid dreaming but lucid dreaming has more substance to dream about since there are evidence/material that it can be done and you know what it is because you experienced it yourself. So it's very complex as to Y certain things are dreamable but not everything. I can go on talking about it but it would lead to confusion cause it's very complex to put into words...

IMJ

It is possible to do anything in a dream that your mind can conceptualize, and to the extent of detail that the conceptualization goes. If right now you cannot even begin to imagine what 4 dimensions might look like, chances are likely that you will not be able to experience it in a dream either. If you try, you may come up with something that upon reflection you know is just nonsense, or you may come up with something that approximates it in some small way but not significantly enough to feel like you've actually done it.

If you can imagine it though, then it is surely possible.

Fourth dimension is easy. Fifth dimension is harder but not too hard. Anything higher I haven't done. Dreams are actually very fourth dimensional already.

I believe that anything is possible in a lucid dream, you just have to believe you can do it. In a lucid dream I had last night, I tried flying but it was all black and I didn't move from my spot. This could be misleading, seeing as I got a little excited when I realized I was dreaming.