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      McKenna on Dreams and DMT

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu8_z818Fk0

      McKenna claims we can experience DMT in our dreams. Not a mere memory but the actual experience. “I bet you have to have done it in life, to have established the knowledge of its existence, and the image of how it's possible, but then this thing can happen to you without any chemical intervention.” He said.

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      one of my goals is to smoke dmt in a lucid dream. when i finally do and if its actually like a dmt trip im deffinetly going to make a thread about it
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      Quote Originally Posted by JamesLD View Post
      one of my goals is to smoke dmt in a lucid dream. when i finally do and if its actually like a dmt trip im deffinetly going to make a thread about it
      I would like to do this too (because I am too cowardly to try DMT in reality), but something tells me that you need to actually try DMT first, and then, as Terence says in Alien Dreamtime, "if you've ever had it, even just once. somebody will pull out a little glass pipe. And then, it will happen. It will happen just like the real thing. 'Cause there's a button somewhere inside each and every one of us, that gives you a look into the other side. And that's the button that resets the compass that tells you where you want to sail... Good luck."

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      Quote Originally Posted by JamesLD View Post
      one of my goals is to smoke dmt in a lucid dream. when i finally do and if its actually like a dmt trip im deffinetly going to make a thread about it
      You'll only be able to replicate the true affects of DMT in lucid dreaming if you've tried it for real in real life. Same goes for any other drug, if you've used MDMA, you can replicate the effects in a dream. Like you can't imagine what a particular water slide will be like until you do it, then you can imagine what it's like and dream it like it is in real life.

      DMT is active in your brain when you dream, when you're born, and when you die, so activating the effects in realistically in your dreams would probably be more easy than replicating other feelings from other drugs.

      When I smoked DMT with my friends, it basically put us into a dream state whilst IN reality - very very trippy stuff. My one friend went through time and space until he was deep in space observing a massive space-ship battle.

      Quote Originally Posted by CanceledCzech View Post
      I would like to do this too (because I am too cowardly to try DMT in reality), but something tells me that you need to actually try DMT first, and then, as Terence says in Alien Dreamtime, "if you've ever had it, even just once. somebody will pull out a little glass pipe. And then, it will happen. It will happen just like the real thing. 'Cause there's a button somewhere inside each and every one of us, that gives you a look into the other side. And that's the button that resets the compass that tells you where you want to sail... Good luck."
      Exactly. And that's a pretty awesome quote
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sony86 View Post
      My one friend went through time and space until he was deep in space observing a massive space-ship battle.
      thats epic haha
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sony86 View Post
      Same goes for any other drug, if you've used MDMA, you can replicate the effects in a dream.
      Wait, can you really do this? I'd fuckin' love to do that in a dream.

      Quote Originally Posted by Sony86 View Post
      DMT is active in your brain when you dream, when you're born, and when you die, so activating the effects in realistically in your dreams would probably be more easy than replicating other feelings from other drugs.
      And is this true? I've heard this countless times, and I've also heard the opposite. I've never seen anything concrete for either side, however.

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      yeah its true, ive smoked weed, eaten mushrooms, and dropped acid in dreams and there always exactly like real life
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      Quote Originally Posted by CanceledCzech View Post
      Wait, can you really do this? I'd fuckin' love to do that in a dream.



      And is this true? I've heard this countless times, and I've also heard the opposite. I've never seen anything concrete for either side, however.
      Yeah! After I rolled pure MDMA (Not going to say anything else but it was probably the most happy time of my entire life, and it didn't fuck me up in any way) I was able to do it in my dreams and feel the same exact way!

      It's cool because it proves that your dreams can replicate any real life experience or emotion - whether it's the feeling of being on MDMA, the taste of amazing food, and even pain! My mom told me of dreams where she would be forced to walk on broken glass to get to a door at the end of a hallway, and she said the pain was 'excruciating' and 'just like what it would've felt'.

      Fascinating, really. I've tripped in my dreams too. Sadly, smoking weed destroys recall so I can't remember most of the cool ass dreams I think I have, but it only really effects recall if you're stoned when you go to sleep.

      The best part about it is that you can experience the awesomely amazingly un-matched feelings of utter blissfulness when you're using MDMA in your dreams all the time without suffering real-life abusive side-effects (You're more likely to die choking on a cabbage leaf, or a fight in a pub than you are to die from overheating on MDMA, but I definitely wouldn't recommend taking it all the time, just on rare occasions (Dance festivals, etc). That's my opinion.
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      So, idk if this thread is dead but I just woke up from the fuckiest dream and had to look it up online, which lead to this thread haha... So anyway, earlier tonight, I took a couple hits of dmt and felt nothing, which was a combination of relief and disappointment haha, but this is normal because shrooms and salvia have little to no effect on me in less than... Substantial quantities. Anyway, I had a hard time falling asleep tonight and when I finally did, I was transported to this party I had been to a year or so back... Except I had just cashed a bowl in a bong of dmt (in my dream). As soon as I blasted off, I consumed about a gallon of alcohol (obviously enough to kill a 100 pound girl several times over haha). The next thing I know, my friend is throwing up this liquid that looked like mercury all over the place. I mean everywhere... It was dripping from the ceilings and getting all over everyone. It switches to water and we all relax, but I can't get it out of my head. I take a few more hits: the taste is so realistic I had no idea it was a dream... Same ole shitty plasticy taste. This time when I blast off... It's mild and just keeps going. I walk into a room and I'm at one of my parents dinner parties and they're all hammered beyond belief hanging out with six men who don't speak English... I insist I have to drive my mom home because I'm the only sober one (?) but she denies it so I go back to my party. We run out of alcohol so we drive back to my house. I get into the shower and right as I'm stepping in, I see myself stepping out... So I throw punches and ultimately kill myself... I close my eyes and other dead me disappears... As I'm taking the shower, I keep my eyes closed so I don't hallucinate anymore because all I was seeing were more forms of myself which was terrifying... It was like I could see the string theory, every possible opportunity and decision was yielding a different outcome and I could see through it all. This is when I started to feel drunk. We all know how difficult drunk showers are, so I slid to the floor and got six phone calls at once. I answered one from a friend I hadn't seen in three years and she goes on to tell me that I called her when I was blasting off and she was worried about the stuff I was saying. Frustrated because I'm too drunk to talk, I hang up and walk out to meet my friends to go back to the party... We have those big jugs that are used for holding water full of absinthe (something I've never ever tried) and all of a sudden, we're 14 years old and my parents come home. I go into my room to find somewhere to hide the jugs and find six puppies have completely destroyed my room and all of my stuff is packed into boxes as if I'm getting kicked out. I assume they belong to the Mexican men and think nothing of it... Just pet them. I hide the jugs and realize that this trip is way too scary, so I go to my window and see the most perfect day out one window and the scariest night out the other. There are vans and guns (random haha) outside the night window so completely terrified I jump into the beautiful day which instantly turns sour and then I hit the ground and it's all over, just complete darkness, as if I'm awake while sleeping and see... Sleep itself.... I slowly woke up and have what feels like a god awful headache. It was just too realistic to handle...

      So to answer your question, it happened to me and was the most fucked up thing I've ever experienced... Completely realistic and dmt esque, how it'd be in real life... My mind was just raped and I don't know how I feel about reality anymore haha..

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