Thread: Dealing with darkness or "the void"?

yea, my problem is that i want a full lucid experience and i seem to continuously be denied because the moment i become lucid my surroundings disappear into black. i think i'm getting better at catching myself on false awakenings now because of it though, haha.

anyways, i keep thinking that it could be that once i become lucid, my mind races with so many thoughts at once and loose track of my dream? well, i will definitely try to reopen my eyes next time if i remember, i honestly couldn't tell you if my eyes were open any of those times, i hadn't really thought about it...

thanks

I have this right before I wake up, sometimes. If you're in no danger of waking up, have you tried opening a portal?

IMO, this requires a bit of preparation. Throughout the day and before you go to bed, visualize opening a portal/teleporting/disolving the dream/whatever method appeals to you. For instance, visualize cutting open a hole in the dreamscape, making a portal to another place with a bit more substance. Daydreaming about it tends to help me.

Originally Posted by Samael

I have this right before I wake up, sometimes. If you're in no danger of waking up, have you tried opening a portal?

IMO, this requires a bit of preparation. Throughout the day and before you go to bed, visualize opening a portal/teleporting/disolving the dream/whatever method appeals to you. For instance, visualize cutting open a hole in the dreamscape, making a portal to another place with a bit more substance. Daydreaming about it tends to help me.

I actually have not had much success with portals. That would be perfect. It seems like the mind will only do so much, like walking up steps. Baby steps. As it fully forms the dream. Now that could be entirely incorrect, visually it is possible to be seeing things instantly, your room obviously, or a world. But there is something about teleporting that is difficult.

I did have another experience with the blackness a few weeks ago. I was about to start flying and do the tunnel thing, but I could feel the ground. I stayed still a minute and listened. I could hear running water. Slowly I must have looked at the ground, when I looked back up I was in a forest at nighttime, with a stream running down a hill below me. Visually it was very weak, but it was something. I think I lasted a minute or so before waking.

So I didn't make anything, but my mind slowly, automatically almost created this place, or took me there. But I guess my body was not ready to wake up yet. I guess it's up to your mind whether a new dream will start or not. It will make that choice, wake up or stay asleep. That's one thing we can't really force, that sort of ultimate decision - sleep or awake. I woke because I was lucid, not because my body was ready to wake up, that's my theory at least.

My first several lucids, maybe my first dozen lasted less than 15 seconds. Most of them only 3-5 seconds. I'd have just enough time to freak out with joy and fly a second or two as I awoke, and I would react fast. You'll learn to relax, and chill in the background to make them last longer. But that goes along a slider scale. Now that you've gone lucid, it just takes time and effort, I'd say journalling.