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      Quote Originally Posted by KingYoshi View Post
      Ah, well you have only been practicing for 3 days . Just keep working on it and it will gradually get easier and easier.
      Others say that they've got results in 1-3 days. And I've lost my recall instead.

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      Ah, well everyone is different. I'd say it will take at least a couple weeks to start getting some good results (on average). Try not to get discouraged and make sure you are falling asleep with confidence that you will succeed. Keep your chin up .

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      One question about technique: may I drop smell and taste? I've got sort of disorder, so, I don't feel anything most of the time. I don't think that it really matters, but just in case...

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      I was about to quit because I sensed a dry spell coming along but I had an ld.

      Issues are

      -I am not sure of what to be aware of visually
      I look at the different blades of grass and the hues of different bushes
      Texutures on trees etc

      What else do I look for?

      What is this comprehensive energy build up thing?

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      Quote Originally Posted by timujin View Post
      One question about technique: may I drop smell and taste? I've got sort of disorder, so, I don't feel anything most of the time. I don't think that it really matters, but just in case...
      Yeah, you can drop those two and just focus on the other three senses.

      Quote Originally Posted by Fedor View Post
      I was about to quit because I sensed a dry spell coming along but I had an ld.

      Issues are

      -I am not sure of what to be aware of visually
      I look at the different blades of grass and the hues of different bushes
      Texutures on trees etc

      What else do I look for?

      What is this comprehensive energy build up thing?
      Comprehensive energy build up?

      Anyway, you want to see everything. It sounds like you are noticing some good stuff and on the right track. You don't have to single out any particular object, but make sure you are seeing/noticing everything around you. Your eyes to brain connection is powerful, so just try to push its potential. See and notice everything in your vision at all times (as much as possible).

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      Quote Originally Posted by timujin View Post
      Man, this ADA thing is against my lifestyle. I mean, I always do absolutely everything in autopilot mode. It is my flaw, and I can do nothing with it. I mean, when I'm concentrating on being aware, as you advise, I can do nothing but walking or sitting in place. To do something useful I literally must let my mind flow. I can't do the task if I'm concentrating on it, seriously. Is there any chance I will succeed in this technique?
      I know what you mean. My technique is pretty much the opposite of this ADA technique.
      There are 2 ways to lucid dream, try as hard as you can to lucid dream or barely try at all. Trying as hard as you can is utilizing the conscious mind, but the conscious mind is only a small percentage of the brain. The other technique, barely doing anything relies on the subconscious. Just trusting your intent and your subconscious to have lucid dreams on its own. But for some people it's just too hard to NOT try, because they get too excited about lucid dreaming. For you it sounds like the technique I use would be perfect for you.
      Last edited by SilverBullet; 07-13-2011 at 12:48 PM.

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      What technique do you mean? I don't fully understand what you are saying...

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      Quote Originally Posted by timujin View Post
      What technique do you mean? I don't fully understand what you are saying...
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/silver...eaming-117015/

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      Your technique seems very strange for me. For the full first year I was LDing, I was absolutely sure that LDing is easy as walking. I was sure that I am a natural LDist. I saw nothing hard in LDing. But I didn't get automatic LDs, in contrary, I hardly LDed at all (2 unclear LDs in the whole year). So, it seems very unlikely for me that believing such thing again will help.

      Added: can it somehow be combined with ADA technique, or they are mutually exclusive?
      Last edited by timujin; 07-13-2011 at 03:44 PM. Reason: Add

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      ADA has gotten easier for me. I've been doing it everyday. My awareness has gotten better. My dreams are more detailed and I can remember them longer now.
      I guess I'm the try-hard lucid dreamer
      I was so much older then, I'm younger then that now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by timujin View Post
      Your technique seems very strange for me. For the full first year I was LDing, I was absolutely sure that LDing is easy as walking. I was sure that I am a natural LDist. I saw nothing hard in LDing. But I didn't get automatic LDs, in contrary, I hardly LDed at all (2 unclear LDs in the whole year). So, it seems very unlikely for me that believing such thing again will help.
      Added: can it somehow be combined with ADA technique, or they are mutually exclusive?
      You can believe, you can believe 100%. But if you don't set your intent then you're not going to get anywhere.

      I guess you could combine this with ADA, by setting your intent on keeping your awareness at max throughout the day.

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      Quote Originally Posted by timujin View Post
      Added: can it somehow be combined with ADA technique, or they are mutually exclusive?
      Of course you can. I have yet to come across a lucid dreaming technique that cannot be combined with another. The core of Silver's technique is auto-suggestion/MILD. You fall asleep knowing that you will succeed because lucid dreaming is easy. I always try to fall asleep with this positive sort of mind set. Practice ADA throughout the day, and fall asleep knowing that your practice will help you become lucid. Confidence can go a long way when it comes to lucid dreaming.

      Quote Originally Posted by Metallicuh View Post
      ADA has gotten easier for me. I've been doing it everyday. My awareness has gotten better. My dreams are more detailed and I can remember them longer now.
      I guess I'm the try-hard lucid dreamer
      Well, there is nothing wrong with trying hard, but over-working yourself can definitely have a negative influence. It can cause you to be stressed and get discouraged when results do not show immediately. Congrats on your progress and keep up the good, hard work. At the same time, make sure you don't get to the point where you are over-working yourself and your techniques. Always enjoy what you are doing. It seems that you are !

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      KingYoshi, I've encountered yet another problem.

      I can maintain sort of awareness throughout a day, but I can't maintain it if I'm in the fictional world, i.e. reading a book, watching film, surfing the internet, playing video game, etc. Such activities require full immersion into themselves, and I absolutely cannot maintain ANY awareness to real world in such cases. It is really a problem, regarding that they take most of my waking time. Should i maintain technique even then, or it is no problem?

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      Quote Originally Posted by timujin View Post
      KingYoshi, I've encountered yet another problem.

      I can maintain sort of awareness throughout a day, but I can't maintain it if I'm in the fictional world, i.e. reading a book, watching film, surfing the internet, playing video game, etc. Such activities require full immersion into themselves, and I absolutely cannot maintain ANY awareness to real world in such cases. It is really a problem, regarding that they take most of my waking time. Should i maintain technique even then, or it is no problem?
      Yeah this happens to me a lot also.... When I focus on something (or multiple events and so on) I feel myself "hypnotized" and often focus only one thing beacuse of this (for example - listening to music or watching an interesting video) :\
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      So, no answer?

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      Quote Originally Posted by timujin View Post
      So, no answer?
      For one thing, it hasn't been that long. For another, he's answered this question already.

      Quote Originally Posted by KingYoshi View Post
      Ah, this is a very good question indeed. When you are playing something more slow paced, like an RPG or an adventure game, its real easy to keep the awareness of your controller, your environment, etc. That never seems to be an issue. The problem lies with the fast paced games and action games. Particularly competitive shooters or sports titles (for me anyway). Now, when I am playing a shooter or a sports title, I am playing to win. I've always been the competitive type and hate losing more than I like winning. In order to play your best on a shooter/sports game, you have to be "in the zone"...so to speak. You aren't going to perform nearly as well if you are listening to your house noises, feeling your controller, your clothes, etc. Here is what I do...

      I completely shift my ADA training to the game environment itself. I turn the volume up/put on headphones and really immerse myself in that game world. As if "I" am actually the character being controlled. I notice everything in the game environment as I am searching out the enemy. Listen for every single footstep, background explosion, gun shot, etc. Act as if you are within the game itself. Your smell and taste won't change, but instead of seeing images on a screen, see the game environment as if you are there. The controller/mouse is just the feeling of the gun/steering wheel/etc that you are holding. The button presses will be muscle memory, instantaneous reactions, etc.

      Now, whenever you have some down time, like a loading screen, boring area, stop to take a piss, etc....shift your ADA to your actual environment for a quick session. Take everything in around you before shifting it back to the game world. I'm not trying to flatter myself here, I am just going to be honest. I have always been a baller (really good) when it comes to shooters and sports games. I really think the in-game ADA helps with that. It also seems to give me a lot of video game related dreams, which I don't mind in the least !

      Even though you are immersed within the game, you are still awake. ADA practice through a video game will still help you develop the ability to feel the difference in reality and the dream state.
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      That's good, but that doesn't answer the question about what to shift your awareness to when you're reading a book. I read really much (even here, in Russia, I'm considered a heavy reader, and we're among the world top-reader nation), and when I do, I'm completely lost to the real world in what concerns awareness.

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      If you are reading, I would suggest you take a short break and perform an ADA session every so often. While you are reading, try to visualize every scene from the book as you read it. Not only what the book tells you, but relive that entire scene in your mind, in great detail. For Video Games and Movies just use what grimmy2012 posted.

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      Hmm, this is interesting - and it makes total sense. It doesn't seem easy though. I'm about to go on vacation so the new places will be ideal for practicing this, but I spend a lot of my time on the computer - often programming. I'm not sure it's possible to efficiently program while practicing ADA I need my concentration. Do you practice ADA even while doing things that need a lot of concentration? How would this work?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dren View Post
      Hmm, this is interesting - and it makes total sense. It doesn't seem easy though. I'm about to go on vacation so the new places will be ideal for practicing this, but I spend a lot of my time on the computer - often programming. I'm not sure it's possible to efficiently program while practicing ADA I need my concentration. Do you practice ADA even while doing things that need a lot of concentration? How would this work?
      Ah, it is pretty difficult to keep ADA going during a task that requires a lot of concentration. I would suggest taking a quick break every now and then during your programming and perform a quick ADA session. I still have some struggles with ADA when I am playing an intense video game or something similar. So, I like to just not worry about it and perform quick sessions every now and then.

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      ‪Advanced lucid dreaming: part 7‬‏ - YouTube

      I watched the whole video, it really helped me understand this technique.
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      Nice rynkrt3! Thats an excellent explanation of awareness. Thanks for sharing!

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      I gatta admit, since this technique came out, I have been giving it attention on and off, but I still have to force myself to be aware, it's actually quite annoying and exhausting. I feel like I can't give anything my full attention while trying ADA.

      How long did it take for you to become more "natural" at this?

      Do you have any tips for improving my problem?

      -Thanks!

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      After a few days I think I'm starting to get the hang of this. I set my computer to beep every half hour to remind me to do a short ADA session. But when I'm up and about it's easier to be aware because I'm quickly becoming bored of my room
      It's a bit overwhelming to be aware of all my senses at once, so I like to take turns - listen and look one minute, the next focus on touch.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rynkrt3 View Post
      I gatta admit, since this technique came out, I have been giving it attention on and off, but I still have to force myself to be aware, it's actually quite annoying and exhausting. I feel like I can't give anything my full attention while trying ADA.

      How long did it take for you to become more "natural" at this?

      Do you have any tips for improving my problem?

      -Thanks!
      Well, it took me quite a while. Probably a few months of consistent training before I started getting used to using all 5 senses at once. I've been doing this for over a year now. The best way to improve is to just keep practicing.

      Quote Originally Posted by Dren View Post
      After a few days I think I'm starting to get the hang of this. I set my computer to beep every half hour to remind me to do a short ADA session. But when I'm up and about it's easier to be aware because I'm quickly becoming bored of my room
      It's a bit overwhelming to be aware of all my senses at once, so I like to take turns - listen and look one minute, the next focus on touch.
      Yeah, that sounds like an excellent strategy. Keep up the good work and be sure to update us with your progress. Good luck!

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