Hi,

DutchRaptor i've saw your post in one of the threads:
Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
This depends on whether you are taking about using DEILD as a primary technique, or to extend a current dream. In the case of the latter I would choose DEILD since lucids are easy enough to remember.
In case of the former however;
To successfully DEILD you will need a large period of time to sleep. 9+ hours is my own standard for DEILDing, any less your probably wasting your time. So it's not a case of one or the other, it's neither or both.
The problem is that just relying on a mantra for DEILDing is a challenge only reserved for those with an unbending will. On the other end of the spectrum, alarms will usually ruin the delicate waking required to DEILD.
So your best bet is waking up multiple times in the night and dedicating each one to a task. The first awakening may be to dream journal and then say mantras, the next alarm may be for the actual DEILD and the last may be an alarm right before your usual bed time to redo those mantra's again.
This way you will gain the benefits of dream journaling twice, saying your mantra's three times and even waking up 1+ times to try DEILD. As you may suspect this takes up a lot of sleep and so you must sleep longer than usual and your overall sleep will deteriorate.
DEILD is not for the faint of heart!
And it made me quite curious, could you elaborate more on that if it's possible
I myself today slept quite long and when i woke up after like 8 - 10 hours maybe, i ain't sure
I remained motionless and within seconds wild transition effects appeared like scene starting to appear on my eyes etc.
I used to try deild technique times ago with either alarms or natural awakenings under around 8 hours of sleep
And barely had any luck with them

Yet with lots of sleep it worked nicely today.
Unfortunely it resulted in me having headache due to oversleeping.

So i'm wondering kinda if there's any more hints that you could give about deilding your way or why does 9+ hours sleep with deild works effectivly
I myself assume that there's barely or no any nrem gaps between rem phase after so much sleep
- Thanks