Thread: A revolutionary induction technique - R.W.I technique

Originally Posted by SophOnABun

Hi!
I just tried this last night-- Oh my god it works so well! I am a writer so my hands are used to writting a lot down at once, and my mantra, "Remember I'm dreaming, remember my dreams," worked. Thank you so much for coming up with this. (P.S. I wrote it 60 times and had 2 LDs.)

thats a great phrase, I'm gunna steal it too.

Originally Posted by tofur

thats a great phrase, I'm gunna steal it too.

Feel free, if you think it'll help you succeed!

Originally Posted by SophOnABun

Feel free, if you think it'll help you succeed!

I just finished writing it, it turned into "I remember that I'm dreaming, and I remember my dreams" by the time I was done.

Originally Posted by SophOnABun

Hi!
I just tried this last night-- Oh my god it works so well! I am a writer so my hands are used to writting a lot down at once, and my mantra, "Remember I'm dreaming, remember my dreams," worked. Thank you so much for coming up with this. (P.S. I wrote it 60 times and had 2 LDs.)

How long before sleep did you do it?

Revolutionary you say? Well, let's see how it works.

Did this last night after turning computer monitor off (was about 2 am or bit before)
Wrote 50 lines (2 whole pages in my book) of "I remember i'm dreaming, I remember my dreams."
Fell asleep relatively fast for me (30 or 40 minutes)
Remembered a dream in so much vivid detail, I wrote almost another 50 lines on the one dream!

So far some good results, one of the best nights sleep i've had in a while and the best i've recalled a dream in a long while.
Hopefully this can get my sleep pattern back on track and get me some lucids

Didn't work last night, but I'm definitely continuing with this method.

Autosuggestion 101
1) It works as well as you truly believe (in your heart <3) that it will.
2) The more you practice, the better you should get at it (if you believe)
3) Being too tired (mentally) will dampen the effect
4) Going through the motions of it will make it less effective

Sounds like a good tech. Really concentrating on it can help, but if you just write it down mindlessly, you will be screwed. I am not a fan of writing, because it is slower than typing. I am not a fan of typing all that out, since I like to spend my typing time writing books and being on DV. But concentrating on a mantra can help you out any time throughout the day, how you concentrate on it (visuals, writing, typing, eating) is up to you. Good luck on your autosuggestion journey.

Originally Posted by melanieb

I agree about the computer monitor, it's definitely not good close to bedtime. I also write things down in the afternoon, usually around 3PM as that's my typical low-energy point.

Computer monitor is bad for recall, and if you have any insomnia you should stay away from it 1 hour+ before bed time (sleep is important for LDing I am pretty sure). But for some, it isn't as bad as for others. Lots of things effect recall and awareness in a dream, but you can't stay away from all of them or you will be a monk. I like to find out which ones effect me negatively more, and the ones that effect me positively more, and stay away from and stay close to those. Something I believe varies from person to person.

In most cases we've suggested people try using "I am" or "I do" and keep things in present tense. Additionally, keeping thoughts or mantras short and simple, something that makes sense to your mind in relation to dreaming, works better than some complicated sentence or thought.

Originally Posted by melanieb

In most cases we've suggested people try using "I am" or "I do" and keep things in present tense. Additionally, keeping thoughts or mantras short and simple, something that makes sense to your mind in relation to dreaming, works better than some complicated sentence or thought.

Somebody told me to keep it in present tense somewhere and I switched over to present tense. I have had much more success with mantras since then. I do know some people that use future and succeed, but it seems the majority of people that it works for use present tense.

This is awesome..I tried it again last night. Used "Remember I'm dreaming, remember my dreams"... I had one of the best lucids yet(felt like hour long)....

I tried it last night. The procedure was like this:
1. I wrote "I have lucid dreams every night" 21 times.
2. I read the text I wrote again.
3. When I was falling asleep, I was still repeating my mantra.

Sadly, it didn't work. I expected it to work though. Better luck next time. I'll keep trying it.

I tried this last night and guess what... lucid dream.
Wrote 'I realise when I'm dreaming' 30 times at about 1 am.

Originally Posted by TruMotion

I tried this last night and guess what... lucid dream.
Wrote 'I realise when I'm dreaming' 30 times at about 1 am.

You just gave me an idea to fill my WBTB time

Tried it again last night (I tried before but didn't get a proper amount of sleep) and got a lucid. Thanks for sharing this awesome method!

Just stumbled onto this old thread, and thought I would give it a go.
Report back in a few days.

I wonder if you could use this approach to incubate a dream about writing a sentence that you RC in the dream? The sentence would be:

"I'll dream about checking this writing".

At the end of writing the sentence (while awake) you look back on the sentence and try to read it again. If it's wrong, you're dreaming. If you have any "logical" problems writing the sentence you're dreaming.

By the way, regarding the writing of the sentences becoming a habit: You can introduce rules that stop it becoming a habit. Such as:

Only write in capital letters.
Write without your hand wresting on the paper.
Never take the pen off the paper.
Take five seconds to do each letter
Write with your left hand (if right handed)
Hold the pen between the index finger and middle finger instead of between thumb and index.

etc.

Does it matter when I do this throughout the day?

I am trolling off topic now, sorry



Sman98 - Your Avatar is brilliant.
I have seen this guy talk, and although a few facts seem to pop up every now, and then. He defo' has a few marbles running loose in there.

2nd attempt at this method

Typed "When dreaming, I realize I'm dreaming." about 20 times and had a short lucid dream, give it a read if you like
Will continue with this method for now

7-2-2013 Transformative Love - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Well, I tried this 3 nights in a row (50 lines per day), and have had no success, writing is only more effective than typing if you believe it to be that way, it varies from person to person, and honestly all I got out of this was a sore shoulder, I'm glad you found something that works for you though.

Originally Posted by Ksero

Well, I tried this 3 nights in a row (50 lines per day), and have had no success, writing is only more effective than typing if you believe it to be that way, it varies from person to person, and honestly all I got out of this was a sore shoulder, I'm glad you found something that works for you though.

Yeah, you have to be able to write with feeling and focus. As I said, I expected it wouldn't work for everyone, but I'm glad a lot of you are getting great results!

Day 3 - nothing....

Originally Posted by ninoslavi

Day 3 - nothing....

I found that after a week I had to change what I was writing down, and how I focused on what I was writing. I think once it becomes automatic you have to keep it fresh some how.

had an idea... what if we just free wheel it instead of sticking to a robotic statement. So like, write a journal entry with full sentences and paragraphs, like a story about how amazing lucid dreamers we are, how often it happens for us, what we do, etc etc. That keeps it fresh and would keep us more plugged into the process? cause we naturally think up stories to ourselves, we don't usually repeat one statement over and over, we've got a whole monologue going in full sentence format... I'm gunna try it