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      A revolutionary induction technique - R.W.I technique

      The R.W.I (Repetition of Writing Induction) Technique
      By LogicInLife

      Origin:
      Before I describe the technique, I would like to give the readers some background information on how I came up with it.
      While reading, “Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming” by Stephen Laberge, I came across an Appendix “Supplementary Exercises” in which Stephen Laberge gives his readers an exercise list for increasing will power. One of the examples he published is this, “Write 100 times, ‘I will write a useless exercise.”
      A sudden flash back of my childhood came to mind when I read this section in his book. My ex-step father used to make me ‘write lines’ whenever I had done something bad to learn from my mistake. Nonetheless, once I had written ‘I will not forget my house key’ a thousand times, I never forgot to take it with me whenever I had left for school.
      Psychologically speaking, repetition is key for learning and memorization and the power of writing something (opposed to thinking or speaking) X amount of times can be extremely effective.

      My theory:
      “If I write my mantra down multiple times, line for line (opposed to the cheating method of letters down the page), will I in fact remember it in my dreams?”

      My Results:
      A.In my first night I wrote, “Every time I sleep, I will remember my dreams and remember that I am dreaming.” 30 times. – That night I had one lucid dream.
      B.In my second night I used the same sentence and wrote it down 100 times – resulting in 3 lucid dreams the second night.
      C.In my third night I used the same sentence and wrote it down 30 more times in which I experienced 3 lucid dreams that were extremely vivid.

      *In my lucid dreams, I just knew that I was dreaming. I didn’t conduct reality checks and I did not have to catch odd occurrences. I believe this is due to the specific mantra I wrote.

      What you need:
      1.A notebook (I bought one especially for this experiment)
      2.Several pens (I feel like pens are more of a statement for writing, permanent and bold)
      3.A personal mantra
      Examples:
      a.Every time I sleep I will remember my dreams and remember that I am dreaming.
      b.Tonight I will remember my dreams and realize I am dreaming.
      c.Tonight I will see my hands in my dreams and realize I am dreaming.

      How to:
      1.Open up your notebook and make sure all distractions are put away. *Make sure you WRITE; this will NOT work with typing.
      2.Pick your mantra and set a goal for how many lines you will write. (It gets hard when your hand cramps up and boredom sets over)
      3.While writing make sure the sentence is being focused on. (I usually read the sentence while writing)
      4.Make it to your Goal and shut your notebook. The next time you write, start your sentence count back at 1.

      Thoughts, Notes and Expansions:

      -I do not and did not use reality checks, nor do I confirm my mantras before sleeping. BUT that does not mean it will work for everyone without reality checks.
      -This method may not work for everyone.
      -I believe this method would also work for dream incubation or intentions to do specific things whilst in a dream. Ex. I will practice soccer juggling in my dreams tonight.


      Please leave feedback for other users!

      Thank you,
      Logic In Life
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      Wow! This is awesome! I'll definitely have to try this!

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      Quote Originally Posted by TimeDragon97 View Post
      Wow! This is awesome! I'll definitely have to try this!
      Yeah defiantly let me know how it goes for you!


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      which if it were available in waking, would make every man a Dante or Shakespeare." ~H.F. Hedge

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      Giving it a shot tonight, although I have DILDs by often enough, I'll see if this increases the frequency.
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      Quote Originally Posted by LogicInLife View Post
      The R.W.I (Repetition of Writing Induction) Technique

      *Make sure you WRITE; this will NOT work with typing.


      I don't mean to rain on the parade...this certainly is a good exercise.

      But you can also achieve this with typing.

      The act of writing works well because of the connections made but you will also make similar connections while typing. As long you're getting lucid...the manner in which you get there matters not.

      Anyway, saying all that, I point you to the AutoSuggestion Thread as an additional aid to your method. Doing both might even increase your success.


      http://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-...on-thread.html
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      I was initially going to forgo sleeping last night so I could fix my sleeping patterns as I can never fall asleep until after 3 a.m. Lo & behold, 3 a.m. rolls around and I start to feel drowsy, so I figure, Okay, let's give this RWI thing a shot. I write down "Everytime I sleep, I will remember my dreams and realize that I am dreaming" roughly 27 times -- the front & back of a page. It became really painful; my handwriting even got sloppy and lazy. I tried going to sleep, but my shoulder started hurting really bad, so I gave up around 6 a.m. So much for that....

      I'll try again tonight... with a shorter mantra!

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      Quote Originally Posted by melanieb View Post
      I don't mean to rain on the parade...this certainly is a good exercise.

      But you can also achieve this with typing.

      The act of writing works well because of the connections made but you will also make similar connections while typing. As long you're getting lucid...the manner in which you get there matters not.

      Anyway, saying all that, I point you to the AutoSuggestion Thread as an additional aid to your method. Doing both might even increase your success.


      http://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-...on-thread.html
      Actually, its scientifically proven that writing is 5 times more likely to aid with learning and memorization opposed to typing. Not only that, but if you attempt to do this before bed, the lights from a computer could keep you up when you lay down, completely making the exercise useless. Psychology today said, 'writing makes it stick more because you're putting effort in writing it, you're thinking it and you're reading it.' (I'll get my source sometime this afternoon)

      I wasn't saying you're wrong, but, why I put that in the post was this; I didn't get my results from typing and I have yet to try it out. It's not so much that I don't know if it'll work, but that I don't want people getting different results and making claims when they typed opposed to write. Does that make sense? Though I'll probably put a disclaimer in my post after I get out of work today.

      Quote Originally Posted by TimeDragon97 View Post
      I was initially going to forgo sleeping last night so I could fix my sleeping patterns as I can never fall asleep until after 3 a.m. Lo & behold, 3 a.m. rolls around and I start to feel drowsy, so I figure, Okay, let's give this RWI thing a shot. I write down "Everytime I sleep, I will remember my dreams and realize that I am dreaming" roughly 27 times -- the front & back of a page. It became really painful; my handwriting even got sloppy and lazy. I tried going to sleep, but my shoulder started hurting really bad, so I gave up around 6 a.m. So much for that....

      I'll try again tonight... with a shorter mantra!
      Whenever I was testing my method, I would write my sentences during the day with a clear head. I want to say I wrote them at about 5 PM and went to bed roughly at 11PM. Clear your mind, and change what kind of pen you're using every now and then if it starts hurting. Stay calm and don't get frustrated. Like everything in life, if you try too hard, you typically fail.

      *Sorry for any typo's, I just woke up.
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      which if it were available in waking, would make every man a Dante or Shakespeare." ~H.F. Hedge

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      Oh, I figured I was supposed to do it right before I went to bed so it would be fresh in my mind or something.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LogicInLife View Post
      Whenever I was testing my method, I would write my sentences during the day with a clear head. I want to say I wrote them at about 5 PM and went to bed roughly at 11PM.

      I agree about the computer monitor, it's definitely not good close to bedtime. I also write things down in the afternoon, usually around 3PM as that's my typical low-energy point.
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      This is MILD. The goal of the exercise is developing your chances of remembering your intention that you wrote down in the paper. None the less, I think it really shows effort and dedication if you wrote it down 160 times in 3 days.

      Most likely your expectations towards the exercise gave you some help to achieve those lucids (I also tried this some years ago and did get a lucid once), but I'd say this is a great way for those people who can't really get a grasp for mantras or have a hard time focusing on the "thought". Writing sentences might achieve the same effect and it's a more "get it done" exercise than things like visualization. Thanks for sharing
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      I really really like this idea. It's probably the first elegant and unique technique that I've seen here in quite a while.

      I hope this works well.

      Congrats on the idea, I love it
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      I agree with Zoth; this is definitely a form of MILD ... but that doesn't make it a bad thing!

      Indeed, it is a very pleasant surprise to see a simple, workable MILD technique introduced in these forums.

      A corollary, perhaps: During WBTB, it is an excellent idea to write down your dreams, for the same reasons OP gives to explain his technique.

      Thanks for sharing, LogicInLife, I hope lots of people give this a shot!

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      Intention is key to lucid dreaming and this is a nice way to practice intention, as you can keep track and compare your effort and results.

      You write it all at once ? have you tried do write it throughout the day ?

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      Quote Originally Posted by VagalTone View Post
      Intention is key to lucid dreaming and this is a nice way to practice intention, as you can keep track and compare your effort and results.

      You write it all at once ? have you tried do write it throughout the day ?
      I chose a specific time during the day to just sit down and focus on it. I haven't played with breaking it down, but that's only because every time I start writing lines I start back at 1 so I can set a goal and don't cheat myself. To me it makes sense to do it in one sitting.

      Quote Originally Posted by Zoth View Post
      This is MILD. The goal of the exercise is developing your chances of remembering your intention that you wrote down in the paper. None the less, I think it really shows effort and dedication if you wrote it down 160 times in 3 days.

      Most likely your expectations towards the exercise gave you some help to achieve those lucids (I also tried this some years ago and did get a lucid once), but I'd say this is a great way for those people who can't really get a grasp for mantras or have a hard time focusing on the "thought". Writing sentences might achieve the same effect and it's a more "get it done" exercise than things like visualization. Thanks for sharing
      My ADD causes MILD to be ineffective, thoughts over flow when trying to think my mantra. So I figured I'd need to hyper focus on a task opposed to just thoughts.

      As for writing 160 times, I really enjoy writing and see it as opportunity for improving my crappy handwriting lol. Plus when I have a theory to do something I really want I can't help but hyper focus on it until I get results and move on to another theory.



      Thank you all for the support, I hope you have the same results!
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      I did this and combined it with some visualizing and had a lucid that night. Did it a few more nights and didn't have any more lucids, but I think this works. It's important to stay focused on and engaged in the process of writing, thinking the phrase and feeling it as opposed to zoning out and going on autopilot just so you can be done with it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by tofur View Post
      I did this and combined it with some visualizing and had a lucid that night. Did it a few more nights and didn't have any more lucids, but I think this works. It's important to stay focused on and engaged in the process of writing, thinking the phrase and feeling it as opposed to zoning out and going on autopilot just so you can be done with it.
      That is exactly why I read my sentence while I'm writing it, to ensure I'm focused on what's being written.
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      Great tutorial! It really makes sense to me since as a student my studying method is to write down stuff, and I always remember all I write. I'm giving it a shot tonight.
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      I will also gives this a shot tonight, tried last night half-assedly but will focus on it more tonight.
      Also could this be used with one more phrase easily?

      example:

      I will have a dream tonight
      I will wake up still when I awake

      In case one is practicing multiple mantras?

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      I tried this last nigth. Didn't work for me. I will try again today....
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      My life is so much interesting inside my head...

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      I'd say whether typing or writing works better varies from person to person, some people can dislike writing and/or be really horrible at it.
      But yeah, i agree with what others said that it's variation of MILD, and it can also be used to help remembering waking life memory in dream and goals.
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      I tried typing opposed to writing last night with no results. Typed 100 lines - "Tonight I wil realize I'm dreaming", I may try again with my original mantra tonight, but it could also be subconscious expectations thats blocking it. Whenever I type it feels automatic, it feels like there's less feeling in the typing than putting down letter for letter. I'll try again and get back to ya'll with results.
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      Tried this last night
      Wrote down "When dreaming, I realize I'm dreaming." 30 times, and also wrote down the events of the day did it at about 11pm.

      -No LD
      -Amazing Recall

      Will continue with this.

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      Hi!
      I just tried this last night-- Oh my god it works so well! I am a writer so my hands are used to writting a lot down at once, and my mantra, "Remember I'm dreaming, remember my dreams," worked. Thank you so much for coming up with this. (P.S. I wrote it 60 times and had 2 LDs.)
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      Quote Originally Posted by SophOnABun View Post
      Hi!
      I just tried this last night-- Oh my god it works so well! I am a writer so my hands are used to writting a lot down at once, and my mantra, "Remember I'm dreaming, remember my dreams," worked. Thank you so much for coming up with this. (P.S. I wrote it 60 times and had 2 LDs.)
      Awesome! I'm going to have to steal your mantra, it's significantly short and effective. P.S. Is your picture David Tennant, if so, The Doctor or Crouch?

      I've been trying to think of how to make this more effective with different sentences. Using "I will" and so on. Basically, what sentences confirm something to someone most effectively? Does that make sense?
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      Revolutionary you say? Well, let's see how it works.
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