Thread: Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream (deild)

I have never been able to make this work. I think my problem is that before I even know what is going on, I have already moved around. I think I need to have a bit more intention before I even go to bed.

Yeah even though it worked for me "carlhungis" i know what your talking about. Unless somone wakes me up unnaturally (And not a alarm that you have to hit) I dont know if it would work for me without the intension.

Hello everyone.
Glad to know my Technique is doing some people good!

There are a few questions I noticed and a few things I have to address.

LucidMusic:

Is HI common when to transition into the lucid dream?[/b]

Yes, I however do not have HI, I don't know why, I just have the streaks of color and flashing lights, no actual images, but HI like that is very common in the WILD process, and this after all, is a variation of WILD, however it's much much faster.

Thanks Klace, this was by far the smallest interval between two lucids i have ever had and I am looking forward to more.[/b]

I'm happy to hear that! That is the point I had in mind when creating this technique!

Also, it does not take long to train yourself not to move, and with motivation it won't take long to train yourself to do this after you wake up from every dream.
That is all for now, I changed the title, added Lucid in there, and changed the sub-title to a more appealing sentence.

~Klace

Sounds interesting. I'll try it and post the results tomorrow.

I did this a while ago without knowing about it, just did it kind of by accident . Haven't gotten a chance to try it again, hopefully soon though.

It worked for me last night. I took a 1 hour nap and had 2 LD's. Crazy how something so simple can work this well.

Yeah, it does seem sort of simple.
But a lot of trial and error and changes to the technique were required to make it work like it does.

Klace, I need to ask: which step is the most difficult for you? Is it recognizing when you wake up? Or to remember that you mustn't move? Or to become lucid?

Originally Posted by Klace

Yeah, it does seem sort of simple.
But a lot of trial and error and changes to the technique were required to make it work like it does.
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Does this method work only when you wake from a lucid dream?
I mean can you attain lucidity when you wake from a non lucid?
I wonder because I d like to know if your previus state of consiusness has to do with the results, or it's just a rapid WILD that take advantage from the close to REM and SP state of your body.

Seems a great technique anyway, I m going to try it tonight.

After I'm done with checking my stuff, I'm gonna take a nap while my PC defrags. I haven't got this to work for me, so far... but I will try it again.
Here's to hopin'!?!

Originally Posted by lupo7

Does this method work only when you wake from a lucid dream?
I mean can you attain lucidity when you wake from a non lucid?
I wonder because I d like to know if your previus state of consiusness has to do with the results, or it's just a rapid WILD that take advantage from the close to REM and SP state of your body.

Seems a great technique anyway, I m going to try it tonight.
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You can use the method anytime you awake during the night from a dream, Lucid or not.

Originally Posted by Dirtbiker_CRF

Thats a type of WILD Method.
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I think that may be a type I can acutaly do though! . This is great for me as I don't have the time or energy to WILD (the idea of losing the sleep is too much). This way I don't lose much sleep, and don't have to spend time relaxing as I'm already relaxed. Sounds fun, thanks for the idea. I am currently on a pretty bad dryspell, so maybe this will help get me back into LDing.

ok... so ya... I woke up from my nap 3 different times...

First: Girlfriend walks in and she shakes me awake... I give her money and she goes shopping... (What?!?!?)
Second: I become lucid towards the end of the dream and I spend all my focus on waking up in a fashion where I won't move. I wake slowly, rather aware, though. I start to feel the numbness in my arms and legs... I lay there trying to get back to sleep... I give up after about 5 minutes and go grab water, before returning to bed.
Third:I wake up from a non-lucid, I lay still, start to get numb, but I'm way too awake now to go back to sleep.

The amount of sleep I got was a factor into not getting back to sleep.
I would have been able to have done it the first time, had I not be shaken.

I'm going to be editing the main post with all the information you will need to know.
Also tell everyone about this technique and even put a DEILD counter in your Sig!
(Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream)

Edit: Done! Tutorial in first post, easy to follow!

Originally Posted by Klace

NEWS: If you with to partake in this technique study, simply put a counter for DEILD's in your sig, and count it up whenever you have a lucid from this technique, if you chain lucid's, put how many you chained in your sig as well, get to it!
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Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream (DEILD)
By: Klace
FAQ
1: What is DEILD(Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream)?
DEILD, is a method created by me, Klace as a sort of "substitute" for the WILD process, this technique is nearly exactly like WILD exept it only take a few moments to perform, does not interrupt your sleep, and as long as you do it right, will have a 100% success rate.

2: How did such a method come to be?
This method started a month or two ago, and developed up until now, when I felt it was good enough to give out to the public, I woke up in a SP state and used it to chain a lucid dream, I tried to teach myself to do this after every dream, and I made a set of instructions so that you can do so as well, and have many lucids a night depending on your dream recall or if you remember waking up in the middle of the night.

3. Seems simple, how did it take months to make?
Yes, it does seem very simple. But alot of time and effort was put into making a set of instructions that can be performed by anyone with some practice, as long as you keep practicing you will find that this technique works amazingly well, some may not even need practice!

Instructions:
Sorry to make you read through the FAQ to get to the instructions, but the FAQ covers everything you would need to know before you
can do this technique. read it, and you can become a DEILD'er!

STEP ONE:
Have many Dreams, You wake up from them all, which is where this technique is performed!
The first step is, you want to make sure you remember that you wake up from all your dreams that you have, and teach yourself to remember this, no it's not hard at all, and does not require much practice, odds are, everyone here already remembers when they wake up from dreams because they write in their dream journal.

STEP TWO:
Teach yourself to NOT move at all, and keep your eyes closed when you awake from a dream.
When you awake from a dream, you much teach yourself to keep your eyes closed and to not move at all, I don't have any scientific explanation to back me up here, but I think this naturally causes your body's REM period to continue because it thinks you are still asleep. Now you will enter Sleep paralysis momentarily, and it can be a scary experience, but tell yourself, It's not real, your body is doing this naturally and it is not dangerous, no harm can be done.

STEP THREE:
Stay still in sleep paralysis, and a few moments later, Lucid away!
Momentarily, after sleep paralysis starts, you will be in a lucid state, and can do what you want, this is basically like WILD, it offers the best possible lucid dream and is very stable, and controllable depending on your person. Now do whatever you wish for this lucid dream, when you feel the dream fading away, proceed onto Step four for chaining lucid's, have as many a night as you are able to!

STEP FOUR:
When you feel the dream slipping away, now is the chance to make your body stay still no matter what, you know you are waking up, and you can stay still after you wake up, back to back lucid's!
When you wake up from a lucid, you know you are waking up because mostly, it just fades away, while it fades away, just stay completely still when it's fading away, and then when you wake up, do this and you will chain many lucid's together a night, no problem.
This could be named the new Holy grail of lucid dreaming, with practice, you can have as many lucid's a night as you want, and as many as your body will let you!

Lucid Away!
Klace
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very interesting technique.
quick question: after you wake up, and keep your body motionless, what do you think about while returning to the dream? Are you focusing on anything in particular ?

Don't focus on anything in particular, Sleep paralysis can be a creepy stage, so concentrate on getting past that, if you have no creepy things in the SP stage, concentrate on becomig lucid, whatever will help you lay motionless, it shouldn't take long till you get in a lucid.

Sounds interesting. I'll try it and post the results tomorrow.[/b]

Same here!! I've been looking for an easy technuique to try, and this might be it!! Of course I'll have to put the intention in my mind before bed. However on Saturdays I stay up til' 1:00 (Trinity Blood, Bleach, Eureka 7), so I'll also have to do it on other nights where I go to bed at a normal time. (And I'll practice as well.)

Everyone put a DEILD counter in their Signature, it's for study purposes on my side.
Also, thanks for the interest in the technique everyone, and thanks for the positive results! :bravo:

Question Time:

Klace, I need to ask: which step is the most difficult for you? Is it recognizing when you wake up? Or to remember that you mustn't move? Or to become lucid?[/b]

The hardest part for me is to not move right away, it's instinct that I move right away when I wake up, but if I really tell myself and set the intention not to, it's not really a problem.
The rest is a piece of cake.

Lolz U Didnt Make This Tech. Its Been Very Very Public For Years Starting Up Even In Laberges Books. This Is Just Chaining Dreams As Told By For Yrs On Countless Sites Including This Site Multiple Times! And The Sig? Lolz Clearly Sounds Like U Want Attention And Not Research. Btw Typing Is All Caps Cause Im On The Cellphone

Originally Posted by malac

Lolz U Didnt Make This Tech. Its Been Very Very Public For Years Starting Up Even In Laberges Books.
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I've had a read of the relavant chaper in the Laberge book "ETWOLD", "Falling Asleep Consciously", and the 'DEILD' as the OP describes it is not covered.

The closest he comes is when he was in the lab and did not want to physically move after awakening from a dream state so as not to interfere with the physiological recordings. He acknowledges that this was a contributing factor in more lucid dreams, but strangely does not mention this factor in his exersises.

Originally Posted by malac

Lolz U Didnt Make This Tech. Its Been Very Very Public For Years Starting Up Even In Laberges Books. This Is Just Chaining Dreams As Told By For Yrs On Countless Sites Including This Site Multiple Times! And The Sig? Lolz Clearly Sounds Like U Want Attention And Not Research. Btw Typing Is All Caps Cause Im On The Cellphone
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I don't care for attention, I just would like to share my technique with other people so that they may have more Lucid Dreams, Research would of course find out if this does work for everyone who tries it out, weather they have to practice or not.
Yes it is chaining dreams, but a technique I made up myself with a month of research and experimentation, as for Pluto, they explained it pretty clearly.
You must be the one looking for the attention posting like that in here with no proof.

Keep on LD'ing,
Klace

Quick question. I didn't know that you actually wake up after each dream at night. I'm a pretty heavy sleeper, and I don't remember any such wakings.

My question is: how do people here go about waking up enough to do this technique? Do you just convince yourself before sleeping that you will wake up/become aware after every dream, and that when you do, you won't move? This seems like it would be the biggest roadblock for me, because I don't ever remember waking until I wake up in the morning.

I'll start trying to do this technique through auto-suggestion and see what happens. If anyone has any suggestions on ways of remembering or realizing that they're awake after each dream, I'd love to hear it - the technique sounds very promising. Thanks in advance.

I started waking up after rem cycles when i told myself that i would remember my dreams and since it is easiest to remember dreams when i wake up from them, my mind obviously took the easiest route and started waking me up after every rem cycle.

Well 2 techniques ahve always worked for me
USe auto suggestion
There is an excellent tutoial on it, called HILD
its used 2 icnrease dream recall,
the other technique that worked for me was 3 gulps of water before bed, however, that wont work for this technique simpky because, when you wake up, you cant run to the toilet
I tried this technique last night, found mylsef back in the same dream, and still failed to become lucid
however, I see it as a staert... (nice technique)
Imran