Thread: Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream (deild)

Originally Posted by Klace

Thank you for that, LDG.
I wish you the best of luck with the technique, being sick always sucks, but when you get better and try this out you could LD all you want with some practice.
I'm not taking too much time to post, because my school blocks everything, there are things I wish to say about DEILD, but I will do that when I get home, I don't want to type a long post, and it get blocked and lost in the process because of my stupid school. (They blocked Google, believe it or not)
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My school has qouta time, which means every 5 pages I go to or so, I have to click on quota time again, sometimes I'll type out a long post and it will be randomly deleted.

Your school blocks google, lol thats stupid, mine blocks Ld4all under "Cults" I'm glad they didn't block this site.

Yeah I got a few questions, but I've got to make sure there not already answered.

Wow, I just thought of somthing this could serously help out my DDILD, I might actualy gain experience from doing it to make it easier when I'm awake.

incase it doesn't go through just copy it and post it again.

I do have a question, have you seen an increase in accuracy the more you use DEILD or have you always had the same likely hood that you'll wake up with out moving.

I, personally, have gotten better with it.

Originally Posted by BohmaN

THIS TECHNIQUE OWNS!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!!
WORKS ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!
2 LUCIDS TONIGHT THANKS TO THIS TECHNIQUE!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!

Btw the person that I had sex with in my LD last night has the computer right beside me and she doesn't know ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IT'S WONDERFUL!!!!! MOHAHAHAHHAHAH
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HAHA that's great!


I NEED to try this method!

First of all, stop bickering over whose technique that is. At best it is LaBerge's technique, but most likely it's just a general technique like WILD. I've first stumbled on this technique in 2004 and was trying to promote it ever since. But I believe I was the one who coined the term "Dream Reentry", cause this is how it can be explained... Dream Reentry Tutorial

I've first experienced the technique a couple weeks after listening to LaBerge's hypnotic tape. One of suggestions he says goes like this: "You may reenter any dream that you wish or create any dream that you wish"... And one day I just did. That was the starting point. Look for "Trance induction of Lucid dreams Daytime/Bedtime" if you want to improve your chances. (I'm not exactly sure of the name of that track/cd)

Let me summarize my experiences/highlights of this technique:

-First of all, remember that this is a technique, so you have to put effort into it. It's not just falling asleep after waking up. It is conditioning your body and mind (although somewhat simple) so you can fall asleep consciously. If you didnt put effort in the technique, dont say that you've failed - you just didnt try.

-It requires attention and can be performed many times a night

-It works best after a few hours of sleep

-You may reenter just about any dream that ended prematurely or close to the end. Some dreams just run out of juice and are very hard to reenter.

-Reentering lucid dreams is easier because you may catch the awakening moment easier

-The main thing about this technique is confidence and faith. It may take 30 seconds, 1 minute or 5 minutes. Many times I gave up trying and fell asleep nonlucidly within couple minutes of trying. Just lay there, not moving and just focus on the last scene of a faded dream or an intimately familiar dreamscape. Even if you dont feel anything after a long time, just do a RC on the digital clock. Several times I've found myself in the exact same bed but in a dream.

-When trying the technique you NEED to focus on some specific image. Without focus you will just fall asleep or will appear in a random dreamscape. It is also much harder to detect the onset of the dream (it is not like WILD at all. It is very soft, no transition phase whatsoever, images "phase" around you, first being ethereal then becoming solid) < this is the most common onset I experience. I used to have WILDs when I just started experiment with the technique, then they were gone.
Back on topic of focus: when you are focusing on an image (be it your common dreamscape or the last scene of a faded dream) you are able to distinguish between the reality and a dream. Once you appear in the scene you were visualizing you are INSTANTLY lucid. It DOESNT matter what the setup/dream scenario is. If you catch the dream onset, you are lucid no matter what. Just be careful, it takes a few moments for the image to become solid and for you to obtain a "dream body" - before that you are like a point of awareness, but as the dream solidifies you obtain a body.

-Knowing that you can "reenter" just about any dream gives you confidence and removes anxiety of waking up from your dreams, allowing for LONGER and better LDs...

-When trying this technique you may become a "Lucid God" - I&#39;ve been one for about a month - LDs every night, multiple LDs each night, multiple reentries of any given LD... It is like a snowball... Confidence induces more LDs, more LDs boost your confidence. Combine this technique with "Non Induction" technique and you may easily experience it. The problem is - after such easy technique there&#39;s little motivation to try something else, and if something breaks the cycle, it is hard to get back in the cycle, as you are so used to easy effortless LDs.... You may also stop practicing techniques you were doing before, cause they seem so "weak"...

-This technique can be used to gain enormous amount of control over the dream content - you can reenter a dream from within a dream while changing the dreamscape. For example I&#39;ve teleported, overcome movement impedement obstacles (like force wind) and removed enemies from within dreamscapes... All you have to do is focus on the dream scene you are in, imagine the change and shift your perception from the scene that is around you to the scene in your mind... This once again gives you a boost of confidence in your LD control abilities, and more confidence = more control.



What we have here is a mega technique with a great potential for improvement - think of how many WILD induction methods there are? With many people trying this technique it can be greatly improved.... What we should do is spread the word, and think of spinoffs and improvements for this technique.... If not you, then your friend may come up with a way to make this even easier. It would also help to motivate people to do this technique if it gets the same publicity as WILD or DILD...

I myself have been practicing it on and off for a long time now, and my advise would be - DONT STOP once you get your results, otherwise you will break the cycle described above.

I must give credit to Klace. You&#39;ve succeeded where many have failed. Not only did you realize the potential of the technique, but you&#39;ve created enough publicity around it to make this thread go to 8 pages... I&#39;ve never got more than a couple replies...

Thank you for your two posts, one incredibly filled with information on the upsides and information on this technique&#33;
I only have a feeling that this topic will get longer as people practice it, and master it.
If anyone made a similar technique like this in the past, such as LaBerge, I am fine with that, and I am fine with you saying it&#39;s not mine, however, I made this all by myself, experimenting on my own, and I am proud of that, I just want to share my technique with the public.

Originally Posted by Ev

First of all, stop bickering over whose technique that is. At best it is LaBerge&#39;s technique, but most likely it&#39;s just a general technique like WILD. I&#39;ve first stumbled on this technique in 2004 and was trying to promote it ever since. But I believe I was the one who coined the term "Dream Reentry", cause this is how it can be explained... Dream Reentry Tutorial

I&#39;ve first experienced the technique a couple weeks after listening to LaBerge&#39;s hypnotic tape. One of suggestions he says goes like this: "You may reenter any dream that you wish or create any dream that you wish"... And one day I just did. That was the starting point. Look for "Trance induction of Lucid dreams Daytime/Bedtime" if you want to improve your chances. (I&#39;m not exactly sure of the name of that track/cd)

Let me summarize my experiences/highlights of this technique:

-First of all, remember that this is a technique, so you have to put effort into it. It&#39;s not just falling asleep after waking up. It is conditioning your body and mind (although somewhat simple) so you can fall asleep consciously. If you didnt put effort in the technique, dont say that you&#39;ve failed - you just didnt try.

-It requires attention and can be performed many times a night

-It works best after a few hours of sleep

-You may reenter just about any dream that ended prematurely or close to the end. Some dreams just run out of juice and are very hard to reenter.

-Reentering lucid dreams is easier because you may catch the awakening moment easier

-The main thing about this technique is confidence and faith. It may take 30 seconds, 1 minute or 5 minutes. Many times I gave up trying and fell asleep nonlucidly within couple minutes of trying. Just lay there, not moving and just focus on the last scene of a faded dream or an intimately familiar dreamscape. Even if you dont feel anything after a long time, just do a RC on the digital clock. Several times I&#39;ve found myself in the exact same bed but in a dream.

-When trying the technique you NEED to focus on some specific image. Without focus you will just fall asleep or will appear in a random dreamscape. It is also much harder to detect the onset of the dream (it is not like WILD at all. It is very soft, no transition phase whatsoever, images "phase" around you, first being ethereal then becoming solid) < this is the most common onset I experience. I used to have WILDs when I just started experiment with the technique, then they were gone.
Back on topic of focus: when you are focusing on an image (be it your common dreamscape or the last scene of a faded dream) you are able to distinguish between the reality and a dream. Once you appear in the scene you were visualizing you are INSTANTLY lucid. It DOESNT matter what the setup/dream scenario is. If you catch the dream onset, you are lucid no matter what. Just be careful, it takes a few moments for the image to become solid and for you to obtain a "dream body" - before that you are like a point of awareness, but as the dream solidifies you obtain a body.

-Knowing that you can "reenter" just about any dream gives you confidence and removes anxiety of waking up from your dreams, allowing for LONGER and better LDs...

-When trying this technique you may become a "Lucid God" - I&#39;ve been one for about a month - LDs every night, multiple LDs each night, multiple reentries of any given LD... It is like a snowball... Confidence induces more LDs, more LDs boost your confidence. Combine this technique with "Non Induction" technique and you may easily experience it. The problem is - after such easy technique there&#39;s little motivation to try something else, and if something breaks the cycle, it is hard to get back in the cycle, as you are so used to easy effortless LDs.... You may also stop practicing techniques you were doing before, cause they seem so "weak"...

-This technique can be used to gain enormous amount of control over the dream content - you can reenter a dream from within a dream while changing the dreamscape. For example I&#39;ve teleported, overcome movement impedement obstacles (like force wind) and removed enemies from within dreamscapes... All you have to do is focus on the dream scene you are in, imagine the change and shift your perception from the scene that is around you to the scene in your mind... This once again gives you a boost of confidence in your LD control abilities, and more confidence = more control.
What we have here is a mega technique with a great potential for improvement - think of how many WILD induction methods there are? With many people trying this technique it can be greatly improved.... What we should do is spread the word, and think of spinoffs and improvements for this technique.... If not you, then your friend may come up with a way to make this even easier. It would also help to motivate people to do this technique if it gets the same publicity as WILD or DILD...

I myself have been practicing it on and off for a long time now, and my advise would be - DONT STOP once you get your results, otherwise you will break the cycle described above.
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Nice post I agree with everything you say.
But what about lying still after waking up from a dream. I find it hard sometimes to get focused immediately, but as you say, if you were to re-enter a lucid it&#39;s much easier since you are somewhat prepared for the awakening. Any tips on that?

I just blew out another perfect chance for a DEILD.

Great technique&#33;&#33; i can&#39;t wait till I fully master it.

As for your schools blocking websites use torpark http://www.torrify.com/software_torpark.html
put it on your usb and you can get on any site you like .

Bushido

Nice post I agree with everything you say.
But what about lying still after waking up from a dream. I find it hard sometimes to get focused immediately, but as you say, if you were to re-enter a lucid it&#39;s much easier since you are somewhat prepared for the awakening. Any tips on that?[/b]

When your lucid dream fades you are instantly aware that you woke up. You dont even have to move or do anything. Just close your eyes and start to reenter the dream immidiately. It takes a lot less time for your body to fall asleep and thus you will be more successful.

I used to tell myself in lucid dreams that I will reenter the dream when it fades. Pretty much my usual "I"m dreaming now" thought looked like "I"m dreaming now and I will reenter the dream when it fades" < that was quite successful, just dont reenter the dream more than 5-6 times or you may forget a lot.

I used to do affirmations like "Tonight I will wake up after every dream and attempt to reenter every dream that I wake up from". One affirmation doesnt work, you gotta do that for a week or two and you&#39;ll feel the effect.

Originally Posted by Ev

When your lucid dream fades you are instantly aware that you woke up. You dont even have to move or do anything. Just close your eyes and start to reenter the dream immidiately. It takes a lot less time for your body to fall asleep and thus you will be more successful.

I used to tell myself in lucid dreams that I will reenter the dream when it fades. Pretty much my usual "I"m dreaming now" thought looked like "I"m dreaming now and I will reenter the dream when it fades" < that was quite successful, just dont reenter the dream more than 5-6 times or you may forget a lot.

I used to do affirmations like "Tonight I will wake up after every dream and attempt to reenter every dream that I wake up from". One affirmation doesnt work, you gotta do that for a week or two and you&#39;ll feel the effect.
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Perhaps I wasn&#39;t clear enough, but what I meant was how do you remember to lay still after awakening from an ORDINARY dream? You mentioned the affirmations, I&#39;ll try that, thanks... any other tips? Re-entering lucids I&#39;ve got no problems with

Alright, well I tried this last night, and woke up many times in the night. Unfortunatly, I only realized I was awake after I moved. Except the last time I succeded in waking up without moving, but it was 11:00 in the morning, and very bright out, so I never got into SP. Ah well, the potential for this technique is increadable, I&#39;ll keep on truckin.

I added a tips section, I experimented with some stuff to make this technique give you more chances for a Lucid, by teaching yourself to remember awakening after every dream.
But Chances are if you do not move, the DEILD will work, and there won&#39;t be a need for any of these tips.
Good for the people who are still having trouble staying still.
Don&#39;t drop the practice of staying still for the tips though&#33;
Still try your hardest in staying still to perform a DEILD&#33;

I woke up several times without moving and went straight to SP, the problem is I think I wake up into a false awakening everytime I do this, but it doesn&#39;t bother me because it does get me lucids pretty good, like I&#39;ll be right at the end of a dream when I relize I&#39;m waking up, Is it normal to not beable to sense your body apon awakening, like your just in a black void and can&#39;t feel the bed.

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

I woke up several times without moving and went straight to SP, the problem is I think I wake up into a false awakening everytime I do this, but it doesn&#39;t bother me because it does get me lucids pretty good, like I&#39;ll be right at the end of a dream when I relize I&#39;m waking up, Is it normal to not beable to sense your body apon awakening, like your just in a black void and can&#39;t feel the bed.
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For me, when I exit a dream and don&#39;t move, I sense my actual body perfectly, because when in SP, I vibrate violently, which of course I can feel, I&#39;m sure it&#39;s different for each person, but I can sense my body when I wake up from a dream perfectly.
If I were to realize I was waking up while the dream fades out, sometimes I would be stuck in a black void, and my bed isn&#39;t there, but I am still aware of my body via the vibrating.

Klace, do you feel SP every time? I don&#39;t... =P Any explanation to that?

Well it&#39;s different for everyone, much like WILD.
Some people may have SP more than others, some may not have it at all.
Some may have more intense SP while others may have less intense SP.

Originally Posted by BohmaN

Perhaps I wasn&#39;t clear enough, but what I meant was how do you remember to lay still after awakening from an ORDINARY dream? You mentioned the affirmations, I&#39;ll try that, thanks... any other tips? Re-entering lucids I&#39;ve got no problems with
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Hmm, how should I explain that. It is ok slightly adjust your position, just dont start tossing and turning all over the place. The focusing on an image technique helps to avoid thinking of moving. It is important to remain sleepy. That means dont jump to full awareness. You only need enough awareness to accomplish two things - realize that you are awake and think of some scene you want to reenter. More complicated scenes will make you more awake. You will become fully lucid as the dream settles in.

Originally Posted by BohmaN

I woke up several times without moving and went straight to SP, the problem is I think I wake up into a false awakening everytime I do this, but it doesn&#39;t bother me because it does get me lucids pretty good, like I&#39;ll be right at the end of a dream when I relize I&#39;m waking up, Is it normal to not beable to sense your body apon awakening, like your just in a black void and can&#39;t feel the bed.
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Yes, it is ok. The main idea is to realize that the dream has ended, so you may perform the technique. It works both from the real and false awakenings, except in the case of false awakening you will drift off to some random dream if you give up trying, so do a RC once you give up trying.

The dream that you reenter will be random if you dont do anything during reentry and just lay still. In your case you have FAs, which is ok/good. If you think of the last scene of a faded dream OR an intimately familiar location (For example sitting in your room, but NOT laying on your bed) you will reenter that location. The simpler the location the easier it is to reenter. Also, the simple and familiar location is easier to focus on and your mind fills in the details, so there&#39;s no "What&#39;s on that table? / What&#39;s down that street? /etc" kind of questions.

I&#39;ve tried experimenting with imaginary locations (such as white room with a box in the middle, but that didnt work... At least for me appearing indoors is easier than outside.

It is also important to be able to differentiate between your current situation and the location that you are reentering. For example imagining yourself laying in your bed is a bad idea, as you wont be able to tell if you are dreaming or awake unless you do a RC.

You have to be prepared for anything, because sometimes you phase in a dream "in the middle of an action". For example if I&#39;m reentering a dream of a classroom there may be a test going on and the teacher may yell at me. I&#39;m prepared for that and I ignore the teacher and leave the classroom to have fun.


And one more thing - it helps if you link your "reentry point" to a dreamsign. For example I use a classroom from my first school that is many thousands miles away. If I ever find myself in that classroom I realize that I&#39;m dreaming. Therefore the reentry is almost 99% successful - If I fail to realize the moment when I shift into the setting I catch it as my dreamsign a few moments later.

If you find a location/dreamscape that you are comfortable with reentering it will be a lot easier to accomplish.

I&#39;m making some affirmations just before i sleep for three night now , but i can&#39;t realize the waking after a dream (i didn&#39;t even know it exists in normal dreams before this thread).
Do you have any tips on affirmations? Or a good tutorial maybe?
Thanks

my record is now 8/3... woke up, did technique, it worked. Then, I woke up later, did the technique and laid there for a long time, but couldn&#39;t fall back asleep. I was in my eleventh hour of sleep at that time, though.

8/3 is really good.
And I thank you Ev for coming into this topic and giving your advice to everyone regarding this technique&#33;

Almost got into SP last night with this technique. There was less vibrations than normal, but more sounds. Very loud ones. I wasn&#39;t really going anywhere, but then I remembered Ev&#39;s post about the plank of wood, so I focus on a computer screen, with a listing of dreams on it. And I focus on one and started to go into SP. Then my dog stepped on my nuts and I woke up fully.

In My Days Of Chaiming, I Was Always Interrupted By My Fan In The Summer In The Middle Of Reenty And Couldnt Do It. Did Sound Like Music Or Related Bother Any1 Or Is It Just Me?

Originally Posted by malac

In My Days Of Chaiming, I Was Always Interrupted By My Fan In The Summer In The Middle Of Reenty And Couldnt Do It. Did Sound Like Music Or Related Bother Any1 Or Is It Just Me?
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I&#39;m worried I will have the same problem, because I have a fan as well, I really like sleeping with a fan on though, it&#39;s very relaxing.