Thread: Finger Induced Lucid Dream (FILD)

You could just keep a finger raised

Derb, 10 seconds to 1 minute is enough. Over 2 minutes will only lower your chances.

You have to be really tired also.
You can't just by lying there forever until you go to sleep.

Swikity, did you read my previous post about stretched fingers? I found that it helps.

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edit: and about the white spots on my hand, don't worry. I get them when I concentrate for some reason :s

haha
Every once in a while I'll get those spots on my hands too o.O

Yeah, exactly. Make your hand the way it is when you aren't tensing any muscles. Just let the whole thing relax. Like in the pic, your fingers should be a little bent.

No, I didn't see your post before.
But yes, I have tried a FILD in the afternoon.
At school yesterday to be exact.

It worked, but I had to sit there for a very long time before I got sleepy, then I started moving my fingers.
It works better after you wake up because I can usually fall asleep in an instant when that happens.


For the record, if you didn't read my topic on it, LDing at school=bad.

Yeah, FILDing should be done the instant after you wake up after sleep. Anything else is hard.

Originally Posted by Marvo

Yeah, FILDing should be done the instant after you wake up after sleep. Anything else is hard.

Unless you really like moving your fingers xD

Originally Posted by Swikity

Unless you really like moving your fingers xD

I've found (so far) that even if I'm really tired, the act of concentrating on moving my fingers (only ever so slightly) still keeps me awake. Do you ever remove your attention from your fingers so that you can move closer to drifting to sleep?

If I am moving them slowly enough, it sometimes makes me sleep sooner.

But I mean really slowly.

Take two of your fingers and place them on two keys on your keyboard.
Move them so they just barely wiggle.
That's how you should be doing it.

ok.. but all of your concentration is still on your fingers?

Or can this be combined with looking for visual imagery?

I think it could be combined looking for hypnagogic imagry if/once you start seeing it.
Until then I would concentrate on my fingers.

Hi. Im very interested in this FILD technique but I have a problem with the RC.

A few have mentioned blocking their airways with a muscle at the back of the throat - how do you do this?

I have tried, but it is something Ive never even been aware of. Are there other RCs that can be used when motionless? Thanks

Yeah, it seems some people just dont get it.
I tried to explain it to my sister and she didnt know what the hell I was talking about.
I think I developed the ability because of all the nosebleeds I used to have.

Have you ever opened a stinky garbage can, and you start breathing through your mouth to avoid smelling it. It should sound like your nose is plugged when you talk.

It is the flap of skin that protects your nose from squirting out liquid every time you swallow.
Im cant explain it better, sorry.

It's like when you go under water with an open mouth. Your mouth automatically shuts something inside you, so that water can't go down your throat. This ability can be consciously replicated. I for one, have always been able to do it.

I understand how to block the nasal passage off. But, this is just a matter of conscious control.. so when I then try to breathe through my nose I'm able to.. because of the shift in my intention.
Anyway, I'll just have to cover my nose with my hand.

Can anyone describe how they usually feel just before they have done a reality check where it turns out they're dreaming?

You don't actually try to breathe.
You try to get air into your lungs while still blocking off your nasal passage.

The feeling can differ from time to time.
Sometimes I'll get the tinglies (Feelings like your whole body is vibrating)
And other times I'll get nothing, and just do a reality check and it turns out I'm dreaming.

okay, so if you breathe using this method and don't get tingly after awhile, then its a good idea to do a reality check?

You should do a reality-check no matter what.

Yeah, after about 10-60 seconds you should do a reality check no matter what.

Originally Posted by Swikity

You don't actually try to breathe.
You try to get air into your lungs while still blocking off your nasal passage.

The feeling can differ from time to time.
Sometimes I'll get the tinglies (Feelings like your whole body is vibrating)
And other times I'll get nothing, and just do a reality check and it turns out I'm dreaming.

I'm sorry I'm being so thick with this method, but what kind of reality check are you referring to here; nasal passage block? I'm still not seeing what purpose consciously blocking off your nasal passage has.
-Tom

lol.
When you block off your nasal passage, you cant breathe through your nose.
Same thing for a nose RC.
The idea is that if you are able to breathe you are, in fact, dreaming.

Its pretty much the same as a nose RC, but altered so you dont have to lift a finger.

OK thanks!!

Sorry, I just needed to post this because I wanted to have the 100th post in this thread xD

I might start up an FAQ section if I have time.

NVM, I can't edit my old posts -.-'