Thread: Finger Induced Lucid Dream (fild)

You will have to move while turning an alarm off, drinking a lot before bed will make you have to go to the bathroom. An alarm (at an unusual time of the night) will make you feel REALLY tired hardly able to move, while a natural wake up will have you completely awake and full of energy the moment you wake up. You should choose the method more convenient for you.
Sorry but I have tried this and it never works for me- It is much the same prob i have with WILds really. I never know whether I should try an RC or it's too early- when I decide to RC I am awake and I regret doing it. I move my fingers very slightly as said and concentrate on the movement for [perceptional minute]. It never works- am I doing something wrong?

I keep on falling asleep! Any ideas on staying up. I think I will get up and go to the restroom and then try it.

i love this method (provided i do it right), things that screw me up are when i count instead of just estimating the time, or if i wake myself up to much. at 1st i thought i didnt need to rc since i could feel my brain shift to sleep with almost a cold electronic pulse, but then i got up and saw a whole bunch of spiky trees in my yard (which dont exist) and thought darn it didnt work... so the downside for me is stating it out in my room i guess.

totally doing this tonight if my DEILD fails
I'm excited

but I'm sorta confused, I have an alarm that will automatically go off, so I won't need to move, but I move my finger but barely move them? don't think about anything, except I will RC in 30 seconds?

Originally Posted by erible

totally doing this tonight if my DEILD fails
I'm excited

but I'm sorta confused, I have an alarm that will automatically go off, so I won't need to move, but I move my finger but barely move them? don't think about anything, except I will RC in 30 seconds?

Right, it's no more different than your DEILD, except the movement of the fingers is there to keep your mind occupied, and it may not be 30 seconds.

Just kinda go with it. And don't get excited.

Originally Posted by Dahthla

Right, it's no more different than your DEILD, except the movement of the fingers is there to keep your mind occupied, and it may not be 30 seconds.

Just kinda go with it. And don't get excited.

definitely.

I have a quick question, so is there even any like transition keys? do you just transition with little to no awareness of the transition?

Originally Posted by erible

I have a quick question, so is there even any like transition keys? do you just transition with little to no awareness of the transition?

I dont think so... I keep doing rcs before I wake up.

I tried all night and I couldn't become lucid. Today morning after my mom wake up me I falld asleep again and when I woke up my hand was on my neck. I tried to move my fingers and I got an strange "view". My eyes become more "red" (inside) and I did a RC. I could breath and I don't know why but I was very calm. I stoped the RC and the image of my room and outside of it become a little bit lucid. Then I tried to move and I was sitting on my bed, so I thought if I wake up in my real body and it was morning why would it be night then? And "pum" I woke up from the dream. I don't care if it was short, I really liked it because I tried too much!

So, thank you to all of you! I'm gonna practice more and more.

ugh I fell asleep while doing this.
do sounds alter when doing this ?

Ive been trying this tech the past couple days without success but im still hopeful...when you do your RC do you continue to move your fingers or stop moving them then RC?

Thanks

It may be that I just don't have a very good understanding of sleep schedules, but how is it that whenever you do this you are supposed to go right into a dream? Doesn't your body go in and out of REM sleep? So how would you know if you're falling asleep doing this during a REM period? Thanks.

The longer into the night you sleep the more frequent of REM sleep. So you should drink a lot of water then go to sleep so your body will wake you up to go to the restroom, your body will wake you up after a REM cycle and if it's late enough into your sleep after around 4-6 hours It will be right after a REM cycle and you should do it right then. Your REM cycles will be so close together that, when you wake up would be an optimal time to FILD. I usually go to sleep at 10:30 and wake up at 3:25 that is around 5 hours.

But, this is coming from a guy who knows a lot about it but has never done it .

I tryed this last night to no avail. I do realize though i miscalculated when my REM sleep would occur so that was most likely the problem. I do have a question though. If I have to reach over to a desk to turn my alarm off will that wake me up to much? Tonight I'll try again and set my alarm 3 hours after I sleep instead of 4.5. Wish me luck.

I tried this technique with high hopes yesterday and... it worked!! I woke up in the middle of the night and started to do the finger movement. After about 30 secs or less i did a nose pinch reality check and found i could breathe! I was lucid, only problem is that by doing this technique you become lucid in the same room and in the same way you left it before sleeping. Because of this, you can easily mistake the dream to be reality and fall back to sleep. When i forced my eyes open i woke up for real, so yh i need to work on that lol. But this technique definitely works.

Also, i read some posts and some people are having problems with knowing when to do the finger movement. I think i may be able to help with that. When i woke up i tried to relax without doing anything to go back to sleep. I then started to get dizzy, and a falling/swirling sensation hit me. i then decided to do the movement during that dizzy/swirling/falling sensation and i instantly entered into a lucid state. I then did a reality check after the sensation had gone, and i was lucid.

I found that when I do this technique, I feel dizzy as acnarm said, but then I hear a rushing in my ears like I'm falling through a tunnel. It's all really cool, and then I feel different and try to get out of bed without waking myself.

i tried this a couple of times last night but i was never tired enough for it to work

I'm going to try this tonight. The good thing about this is that when I get up to WILD, I can barely force myself out of bed so I just drop off again. With this though...

Tried this last night.
Started moving my fingers and got into SP, but when I did, everything was black. I tried to visualize something, but it didn't work.
I was close though! I think it's really cool how you can feel the transition between stages of sleep.
Will keep trying and report back.

do you have to sleep a few hours prior to the technique or is that just so you are tired? For example would it work if I went to bed really tired initially w o the waking up?

Hi all, I have successfully performed this technique countless times. Before, my only reliable source of LDs was through DILD and that was sparse like once a month or less. Now, I can have LDs everyday if I really wanted to. I don't think you can perform this technique when you initially go to bed even if you're really tired. The best times for me are 4 to 6 hrs after I go to bed. I treat it like WILD because to me it kinda is.

Seems like people are having a ton of success from this. I'll try it out tonight!
Here's hoping I get somewhere. =P

Edit: When I get up, I feel so not tired. -.-
Going to go at it again tonight!

So, I wanted to attempt this technique, but I have no alarm clock that turns off by itself so I wanted to try auto suggestion. I expected it to take a few nights, but the first night of me saying the time i want to wake up a lot of times then going to sleep, I woke up exactly at that time. OFC it could have been a false awakening because I can't remember going back to sleep.

I've tried his method a few nights, all of which have ended up in me falling back asleep normally after forgetting why I woke up in the first place or not being able to fall asleep while moving my fingers. There have been certain circumstances that have hindered my attempts, so I'm hoping after a few more tries I'll have success.