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      Nsswild

      This is a method I made up, and I decided to make a tutorial because it seems to be a relatively new idea. The idea is that if you go along with what you would normally do falling asleep, it's easier to do a WILD. So this has three parts: Awake/relaxing, asleep, and dream entry.
      BTW, NSSWILD stands for Natural Sleep Simulation Induced Lucid Dream.

      AWAKE:
      1. Relax all your muscles, one by one. You could also try 'flex-freeze' or deep breathing. The general idea is to boost your initial relaxation. If you want, repeat an affirmation or visualize a beautiful scene. This is like a mini-meditation in a way, or self-hypnosis.
      2. Chose one object. Foods are good, because you can explore them with all your senses (smell and taste included). Imagine it on a blurry or matte background. Rotate it mentally and look at all the sides. Touch it, rub it on your skin if you wish. Take a bite. Smell it. Keep doing this until you start to lose concentration or are done with the object.
      3. Slowly count down from ten. During this period re-relax all your muscles, and breathe deeply, keeping concentration.
      4. Roll over very, very slowly.

      Repeat steps two, three and four. I find about three or four repetitions is good for me, but you can do whatever.
      After all that you should be very relaxed, and may already have hypnogogia or be in SP (this method tends to go extremely fast, at least for me).

      Then you have the asleep cycle:

      You have a choice here. If you tend to stay very awake during WILD () and have trouble falling asleep, go straight to step ONE. If you fall asleep easily () then skip to step TWO.

      ASLEEP:

      1. As you breathe in, count ONE. As you breathe out, visualize a scene or image from your train of though. Then breathe in (TWO). Breathe out and visualize a related image. These quickly shifting images are like hypnogogia and might trigger it.
      2. As you breathe in, count ONE. As you breathe out, say to yourself, CONCENTRATE. This helps me a lot during the week when I have trouble staying awake, because when I start just counting subconsciously, I will say, "Oh! Concentrate! Right!" and get back on track. You can also use some kind of sensory simulation, like having a rubber band around your wrist or a textbook on your stomach, to keep you awake. Just remember your intention every time you notice the sensation.

      DREAM ENTRY:
      After you have gone into SP or (if, like many VILDers, you don't notice it or aren't sure) think you have, visualize a dream scene. Imagine it as detailed as possible. Touch things, etc, and immerse yourself in the scene. You should eventually find yourself in a dream. Alternatively, depending on what kind of person you are, you can just roll out or float out of bed.

      I've had a few people test this for me and they've had good results, so I suggest you try this method for a new take on WILD that doesn't involve all of the artificial "just keep your whole body rock-hard and rigid for a few hours and you'll be fine!" mentality and takes a more comfortable, normal approach to WILD!

      If you choose to try this, good luck and please report back on this thread!
      Thank you all,
      Louie O.
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      Interesting idea.

      Ive read somewhere else someone mentioning regular roll-overs while WILDing. Seems like a natural thing to do. I guess the emphasis stands on rolling over very very slowly. IMO, just doing this might cause you to roll over into a dream.

      Also focusing on an object (especially food, excellent example) would keep your mind more or less busy yet still aware as you fall asleep.

      Ill try this the next time I get a chance to WILD and report back with my results.

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      Yes, that idea did come from someone else... I think Yoshi? I can't remember, but it is a very natural thing to do.

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      I have a question LouieO. I tried your technique last night, but i fell asleep unaware. I'm going to keep trying your technique. In my attempt last night, i hit a snag. Under awake: step 4, you say to roll over. Do you do this only if your uncomfortable or do it even if you don't feel the need to roll over? It came time for me to roll over in my attempt last night, but i didn't roll over because i was still comfortable. Was that a mistake?
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      I'd like to thank you for this method. It was far more natural than anything I have seen before and I gave it a shot last night and I think it resulted in my first LD ever! I'm not sure entirely if it was an LD, but I had a distinct feeling of stepping out of my body and walking out of my room. I saw my hands were weird and vision was bizarre as well. Thank you for this technique!
      Once more into the breach dear friends, once more! And fear not its darkness, for it is only a figment of my imagination!

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      So this is... basically... a WILD... but you roll over...

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      Aye, more or less. The real value for me was how it helped me WILD without having to remain as rigid as a board when I was trying a WILD. Its far more natural and the idea of using fruit for visualization really helped me as well
      Once more into the breach dear friends, once more! And fear not its darkness, for it is only a figment of my imagination!

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      Sorry, I haven't been on here in forever, and my account (LouieOpel) appears to have been bugged and completely wiped, so I'm here now as PaeFin. I saw this was a relatively recent post, and I revived the thread, sorry... ^__^;; anyways:
      dark_grimmjow: I think it's mostly personal preference. I usually do it anyways because for every minute spent rolling it seems to me that a minute is taken off of SP/dream entry, but if you're really comfortable it's probably a signal that you should stay still.
      Snowy Egypt: Sorry, I thought it was in here...
      Draxis: Congrats! happy to help
      Lordy M: I don't see it that way, because I introduced two sections instead of just having one, and I generally use 'simulated hypnogogia' (hypnogogic images that you actually generate by imagining them) to further the process. But to a certain extent... yes, you're right... n__n;;

      okay, so we're all caught up now. I'll be back on here more often now that the whole account issue has been resolved!

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      Would this work best when you go to sleep for the first time, or waking up during the middle of the night because you are already quite relaxed?
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