Thread: haithem's workbook

Originally Posted by areyoume

I had very vived dreams last night. I woke up to write them in my DJ, but my mind was full of other things of my daily life that caused me to forget a lot about my dreams and I ended up with only two fragments.
I had the same problem when i tried WBTB. I got distracted with my daily life problems and slept.
any thoughts ?

First, a general piece of advice. When a waking life concern arises during a time when it's not welcome, simply acknowledge it, gently set it aside, and move your mind to other subjects. It may pop back up, but that's okay. Without emotion, simply set it aside again and refocus on something else. Eventually, so long as you do not give it any energy, you will outlast it.

This takes practice, so stick with it. Basic meditation will make you better at doing this. It's a skill that you build up over time, so don't give up.

Next, you'll want to make bedtime as safe and relaxing of an event as possible. Begin winding down with activities that relax you as bedtime approaches. Put your daily life concerns out to pasture well before you get into bed and try to go to bed in a relaxed, happy state of mind where all you are doing is anticipating the night of dreaming ahead of you. Hopefully waking life thoughts will not intrude, but if they do, gently set them aside and go back to happily anticipating your dreaming. Be sure to read RareCola's excellent guide to establishing a bedtime routine: http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/night-...cidity-132655/

If waking life thoughts still intrude during your WBTB, again, do not focus your attention on them. Acknowledge them briefly as they arise, then just let them go. Without your energy they will vanish. Don't try to solve them or fight them off. Instead, refocus on your chosen technique. If you have completed your technique and are just trying to sleep, slow your breathing and focus all of your attention on your now-slowed breathing.

The theme here is that you don't need to fight these thoughts. You just brush them aside with the lightest touch and give your energy to something else. These daily life concerns begin and end with you. This means that without your nourishment, they can't keep coming back to haunt you.

I hope this helps! Good luck.

thanks both of you,CanisLucidus and paigeyemps
I had a lucid dream last night , it was life-like and remarkably vived, but the problem is, once i became lucid every thing seemed be meaningless.my goals,the TOTEM,every thing seemed to be very boring
The problem dosen't stop here, even after i woke up, things that used to make me very motivated when i think of doing them in an LD don't seem to be interesting now.even though i didn't try them out yet !!
what should I do?should i just stop lucid dreaming,or there is something i can do.

Oooh congratulations on the lucid!

It's normal to not be totally in control in your first few lucids. It's something new that you're trying out, so you might be a little off. The great thing is you can learn to deal with that, and find many ways to get better at it. Your dream control will get better in time and you will soon realize that it is very amazing to be able to do things you can't normally do in real life. Just give it more time I guess, you will love it!

So what did you do in your lucid?

oh....It was just temporarily,I got my motivation back up. I think I just am not in the best mood when I wake up just reading your DJ cheered me up and reminded me that the thing we're doing is amazing.
As for the dream, I can't post it right now i have to go school, but I will the moment i get back.

Originally Posted by areyoume

oh....It was just temporarily,I got my motivation back up. I think I just am not in the best mood when I wake up just reading your DJ cheered me up and reminded me that the thing we're doing is amazing.
As for the dream, I can't post it right now i have to go school, but I will the moment i get back.

First of all, congratulations on what sounds like a really nice lucid dream!! The sudden problem with your motivation was strange. We'll get to that in a second.

Most of all, I'm glad that your motivation came back. Particularly because when I read that first message that having a lucid dream caused your motivation to evaporate (!!) ... I had no idea what to tell you! Definitely outside of the range of my experience to say the least!

My best general advice is to really savor every victory. Learn from your setbacks but then just let them lie. Never dwell on them. But those victories? Keep shamelessly congratulating yourself on them, keep enjoying them, and just relish that experience every time you have it. Go ahead and wear a smile. You've earned it!

Remember that very few people are fortunate enough to find their way to lucid dreaming! Congratulations on being among them.

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

First of all, congratulations on what sounds like a really nice lucid dream!! The sudden problem with your motivation was strange. We'll get to that in a second.

Most of all, I'm glad that your motivation came back. Particularly because when I read that first message that having a lucid dream caused your motivation to evaporate (!!) ... I had no idea what to tell you! Definitely outside of the range of my experience to say the least!

My best general advice is to really savor every victory. Learn from your setbacks but then just let them lie. Never dwell on them. But those victories? Keep shamelessly congratulating yourself on them, keep enjoying them, and just relish that experience every time you have it. Go ahead and wear a smile. You've earned it!

Remember that very few people are fortunate enough to find their way to lucid dreaming! Congratulations on being among them.

Thanks CanisLucidus,you just made me feel the real value of having lucid dreams.
here's the dream
I'am in my house, I go up stairs to my room's balcony to see what's happening out side (related to the non-lucid part) when i suddenly remember to do my ADA exercise.
I proceed to do what i usually do, every thing seems remarkebly vived, but when I try to remember what I was doing before all of this I fail to remember,so I pinch my nose and i can breath from one side but i can't from the other, although I'am sure that I'am in a dream I do a hand RC just to be sure. I count seven fingres in my right hand and four in my left hand.
I try to remember my goals and instantly remember the TOTEM, but for some reason I find it uninteresting, so I try to remember my other lucid goals when I see a beautiful girl out side, I can see that she is going into my house, I wonder why so I get down stairs when I see here,without a warning she gives me a kiss ,it was really really REALLY cold, I then suddenly lose my vision and I think I'am going to wake up but i don't, I am now in a dark place, I can't see clearly but I'am able to see some dark entites,they attack me, but I don't remember what happens next.

this lucid was very vived it makes me always question reality even it feels like reality. It's amazing what the human mind is capable of doing.

Great dream, man!

And are you sure you didn't see the beautiful girl before you thought of the Task of the Month? No wonder you didn't find it interesting anymore!

Congratulations again. Keep it up!

I'm pretty sure that I didn't see her until after I thought of the task of the month, but maybe my subconscious generated that feeling of bordem because it had other things to show me. Who knows?
I had 2 lucid dreams last night , but i didn't do much.It seems that all my ADA practice is really paying off, especially when it has brought me 3 vived lucids on it's own, and I've practiced for only 3 days!

I wonder how many lucid dreams can I acheive when I start backing up ADA with another technique.

Nice!!! Congrats!! Really really great!

No recall today.

I've been awfully busy this last two weeks, and I probably will for the next two weeks or so.I just thought of posting here to state that i haven't given up on the lucid dreaming topic, but unfortunately I can't start practicing just yet.
nevertheless I'll try my best to find some time for some lucid dreaming practice. I may even be able to acheive a lucid dream or two.

Sure thing, man! It's always good to hear an update from you. Do what needs to be done, stay rested and relaxed, don't get too stressed, and check back in with us when things settle down for you!

And like you said -- maybe catch a "freebie" lucid dream or two when you're least expecting one.

I've come back from school with some very good news, there will be a holiday for 10 days, which means i can practice starting this thursday comfortably, and maybe try to acheive the TOTEM

YAY!! That's awesome news! I am on vacation too so I have much more time for LD stuff

Good luck!

I've started practicing today, I recorded one little fragment in my dusty old DJ, but I'am sure it will get back to the way it was, filled with lucid dreams .

I think the best part about about that sentence ^ is the smiley at the end. Made me LOL.

Aww thanks haithem!

*gives haithem a big lucidity hug*

I remembered one tiny fragment today. The interesting thing about it though is that despite the fact that it was just a fragment, my memory of it is remarkebly vived. It took me a whole page (a small one) to write it detailed !

Originally Posted by areyoume

I remembered one tiny fragment today. The interesting thing about it though is that despite the fact that it was just a fragment, my memory of it is remarkebly vived. It took me a whole page (a small one) to write it detailed !

Cool! I can imagine how many pages it would take if you remembered the whole dream!

Couldn't remember any thing yesterday ,I'am trying to do ADA properly, and I pretty much succeeded in doing that today.I'am going to set my alarm for a WBTB, afterall, most of my LD's was induced with the help of the WBTB technique.
I've also bought the game "alice madness", and I loved it. I may try to visit the destroyed wonderland and do some stuff there

Hey, we've all had those zero recall nights. I had my first one in a while last night, in fact! We all have to repair our dream recall from time to time. You'll have it back in no time.

Glad to hear that you're liking "Alice Madness Returns". I never played the original game but always heard great things. Plus, Wonderland just seems like great LD material! Let us know if it inspires any LDs!

It's been a long time sinse I posted here, nothing new the past few weeks, just some tiny lucid fragments, but that's because I am not giving LDreaming my all.I went to a school trip during the holiday,and also went to my grandparents house.It's not like I haven't benn practicing, it's just that it's really hard to write in your DJ when you are on a school trip
Things has settled down now though, and it's time for some lucid dreaming !

I should mention that I haven't completed alice madness because it suddnelly started to crash after a few minutes of gameplay, however, I bought prototype today, and I have found it to be an excelente lucid dreaming material.

WHAT THE HECK. I looked at your workbook just now and realized the long post I typed up the other day never went through. GAAAAA

Anyway, i was wondering, what is Alice Madness?