Nervous, static, and uneasy.

**William** · 11-05-2005 04:13 PM

Hello,
My name is William. I am a 23 year old male from Australia. I have had a lay interest in dreams for the past 5 years. I have been recording my recalled dreams during this time and I consider myself to be a prolific recaller so I am beginning to amass quite a tome of raw dream data.

It is beyond the scope of this short post to provide evidence but I have no doubt that some of my dreams have been precognitive and others have revealed to me truths about present events that I could not ordinarily be cognizant of. This is what interests me most about dreaming. I understand this forum is primarily about lucid dreaming but really i'm just looking for anyone who has an interest in dreams and ideally, someone who knows more about them than me.

With full respect to the creators of the Dream Views website, i'm not really interested in gaining pleasure from dreams or turning them into some kind of nightly fantasy where I steer them in the direction I want for purposes of self-entertainment. I'm sure lucid dreaming has its place but i just want to express that I think the phenomenon of dreaming should be studied and experienced openly and holistically. I guess i'm concerned that creating a website about lucid dreaming almost creates an unnecessary 'denomination' of dream enthusiasts. Anyway that's not important.

If you are like me and you would like someone to communicate with about dreaming, even if you're just as clueless about them as me, I invite you to contact me on MSN messenger. In my circumstances I have encountered very few people interested in dreams. This is usually because they are such poor recallers and thus don't wake up daily with the excitement or bewilderment that I do at the unexplained images that have just passed through my sleeping brain.

Forgive me if this post sounds a bit grandiloquent but I have been reading a lot of Mark Twain lately and it rubs off!
In waking life I am just a lowly gas station attendant who spends his evenings eating cereal, so don't be put off by the pomposity of the language. Apart from recording my dreams, my life at the moment is not much more than a nervous, static, uneasy wait for the next Tool album, punctuated by periods of extreme suicidal depression. I'm looking for answers and hoping to find a like-minded individual or individuals to communicate with.

And yes I realize I should probably be doing this at an internet singles service but I'm less interested in holding hands on a beach with that 'special someone' than I am in finding a person who really believes and is passionate about the idea that our sleeping state is as important if not more important than our waking one. So yeah, send a brother an e-mail or instant message if you think conversing with me would be more fun than playing nude barbarian bocce with a mentally unstable tapeworm.

Peace & Heavy Metal to all of you.

**CryoDragoon** · 11-05-2005 04:24 PM

give us proof

why should dreams be studied? precognitive stuff?

about that precognitive thing:... if something happenes to you that has happened in a dream before, it could just be coincidence, i have had dreams for 14 years now , and as far as i can remember, i have NEVER been atttacked by giant wasps, and digested from the inside...

and the truths that you haven't heard off in real life, please give us an example... i do not believe that post if you write it like that, give us an example about that stuff...

**William** · 11-05-2005 05:20 PM

O.k, this is not really what i had in mind when i made that post but since you asked....

In waking life i was talking to a friend on MSN messenger. He told me his mother had broken her hip and elbow and was in hospital. I was shocked and concerned because i knew her to be a woman in only her early 40's and not an obvious candidate for hip breakage. Anyway he had to rush off so i didn't get many details about it. I more or less forgot what he told me until a few nights later i dreamt his mother came up to me laughing and lifted me up in her arms. I had a residual memory of the waking life MSN conversation so i pleaded with her to be careful because i was under the impression that she must have just recovered from her severe hip and elbow injuries. Later in the same dream i stood by and watched an old woman get crushed in a crowd of people, i seemed to have no conscience and i didn't try to rescue her.

Back in waking life the next day i asked my friend how his mother was and he said "My mother?, she's fine, it was my grandmother who had the fall". He had made a simple typo on MSN! My friend lived a thousand kilometres from me at the time and i had no contact with him or his family between the time he made the typo on MSN and when i had the dream.

Obviously this wouldn't hold up in a court of law as proof of anything but i am quite certain in myself that the creator of that dream, whether it's god or a higher form of self or whatever, knew that i was under the wrong impression of who had broken their hip and it casually informed me of the truth in its strange subconscious way.

**Callista** · 11-05-2005 11:58 PM

What we'd need would be a lot of data... fifty people, at least, recording every single dream as well as keeping diaries of what had happened to them and when, as well as a good record of major world events--probably for a year or more.

Then we'd need to find some way to find the odds of a random dream pointing to something in the diaries or world events; and if there were a significant percentage more precognitive dreams than chance would allow, then there'd be a sign that there's something more to precognition... Not necessarily something supernatural, mind you; the brain is a powerful computer. For example, your knowing that a 40-year-old woman doesn't normally break her hips, and perhaps knowing some information about your friend's grandmother, could've helped your brain put two and two together in her sleep.

It would be a big project, though. I don't know if it's ever been done; but even for the sheer utility of so many dreams from so many people collected in one place it would be worth it.

**Longshwen** · 11-06-2005 04:36 AM

Ive had two dreams that I thought were possibly prophetic. One was a dream about a massive pile-up on the freeway during fog season. I dreamed of hundreds of cars crashed on the I-5 south of my home. About ten to fifteen days later the event occurred.

The second was of my wife and I having a son. We had been trying for a while and two weeks after the dream she told me she was pregnant. In About seven months we'll know.

Both instances involved some pre-knowledge of the events. (I am aware of dangerous driving conditions during fog season, and my wife and I were trying for a second child.) Although I remain sceptical of the possibility of pre-cog dreams, I am still open minded.

Oh, and about the depression, I am sorry to hear of another person suffering and can only hope you can find your way through it. Hang in there.