i just found this site today, and i just found out what this whole *lucid* thing was a few days ago. the idea is... well... AMAZING. ive had about 3 LD's in the past 2 months, but ive never had the ability to manipulate my scene or feel anything in great detail. but as the topic states: how real can it feel? i saw a post about by some guy who was getting his muscles ripped out and was feeling intense pain... im hoping that isnt common, is it? and dont bother pointing out all the links for how to induce lucidity, ive already spent a lot of researching it all, and ive already gotten started on the techniques 8) .