What happened?

**Elsig** · 01-05-2008 10:27 AM

Last night I was doing a new WILD attempt. I have tried for month and I feel I`m on the right track but have not gone the whole way yet. Not until last night, I think. The thing is I`m now really confused if I really did go through SP or I just dreamed it... The reason for my suspicion is that I for 45 min kept my self conscious but did not reach SP. I gave up and rolled over to my back (I always sleep in my right side and I have tried WILD lying on my back but this did not help) because it got too uncomfortable lying in the same position for so long. I was extremly tired at this point so I continued with the WILD... Then I`m not sure what happened.. It feels like i start dreaming but I continue trying to WILD in my dream... I was not in my room but somewhere else. Suddenly I felt my body vibrating really hard.. Lights was flashing in my eyes like I was going through a tunnel in high speed. I could see some texts in different colours but they were too blurry to read. I tried to focus on the text but it seemed like I opened my real eyes and saw the room (the one I was actually in) The feeling was so intense real and frightening so I just wanted to wake up. So i did. But I now realize that i woke up in a dream so my question is: Did i dream or did I complete a WILD? ( I should note that when i woke up for real the time had passed an other 45 min so i must have fallen to sleep for a while)

I understand that no one can answer me this question but Wat i want is to hear from other with simular experience. It also rise a question of how conscious you should be when you`re doing a WILD. For me it seems like you have to allow your self to fall in to a light sleep so you can start dreaming... Is this true? (I ask those of you who master WILD).

Elsig

**Wavefunction** · 01-05-2008 10:29 AM

Dreaming and completing a WILD - isn't that the same thing?

**Elsig** · 01-05-2008 10:53 AM

Interesting angle Webmaster and you might be right, but: If I dream a WILD then it`s out of my control, a lucky strike... But if I can WILD because I have the correct technique it`s a skill. For me thats a different.. If i can continuing dreaming I`m doing a WILD I guess you can call it a technique and a skill, but I don`t know this yet....

**Sugarglider11** · 01-06-2008 05:12 AM

I am no wild expert, but what you experienced seems to be sleep paralysis. You may have fallen asleep for another 45 minutes, but you could woke up for only a second then entered Sp, kinda like Deild.

Also, the only way to know if it was your skill that caused the wild is to try again and see if you can duplicate what happened last time.

**innerspacecadet** · 01-06-2008 05:32 AM

It doesn't sound like a successful WILD to me, unless you knew you were dreaming the whole time, pretty much.

If you didn't know you were dreaming until sometime into the dream, then it's a DILD created by a WILD attempt - basically a fancy WBTB-aided DILD. I had one of those...I dreamed I had a successful WILD attempt, and I was as lucid and in-control in the DILD sequence as if I were in a real WILD. "Falling asleep" in the dream was the trigger for dream awareness, and it ended as soon as I "woke up" in the dream back to normal nonlucid dreaming.

If you never knew you were dreaming, then it's a step on the way.

**Redrivertears** · 01-06-2008 09:10 AM

To the original poster:

Hey there,

It sounds to me like you hit the borderline between dreaming and waking at first. That's usually when dreamimages, strange bodily sensations (your body falling asleep), and often dreamsounds or feelings appear. Since you were conscious at this time, you came very close to WILD'ing.

However, it then appears you lost consciousness and fell into a normal dream (your waking up in a dream, as you describe it).

Either way, sounds like it was an interesting experience!

-Redrivertears-

**Elsig** · 01-06-2008 10:41 PM

Thanks for great response and answers. I think I'm starting to develop my own WILD technique where I`m relaxing for aprox 30min while I do countdown from ten to zero thinking my body will be totally relaxed at zero... Then when my body is completely relaxed and I really want to change sleeping position I let my self fall asleep.. After entering an other SP (this time with no light and I woke up to much) while taking an afternoon nap. I think this is my path.. I seem to be to conscious going directly from wake to dream.. So like innerspacecadet wrote:"WBTB-aided DILD" is a good name for what I`m now aiming for

Elsig

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