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      Unhappy Help me please

      I've had lucid dreams since I was a teenager. They've become more frequent as I get older. I do not wish to have lucid dreams.

      I've tried taking sleeping pills such as Unisom, in hopes that they would stop, but it doesn't work.

      I know that for many people, they are enjoyable. But please understand that I do not have them by choice, and that is a very troubling feeling.

      I would welcome any advice!

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      Why don't you like to know your dreaming?

      I don't know of any way to stop them from happening if your that much of a natural.

      I guess you could try to lose all dream recall so that you don't remember them. I take it your recall is pretty good though. Most people don't even remember their dreams unless they want to.

      Anyone else have any suggestions?

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      The reason I dislike it is because it always occurs during nightmares. At some point, I wake up consciously and realize I'm dreaming.

      I try (rather pointlessly) to do something in real life to wake myself up. I try to move a toe or make a tiny whisper or open my eyes. I'm completely paralyzed. Although I know my husband is sleeping next to me, I can't get him to realize I need to wake up.

      When I finally do wake up, I can't go back to sleep for hours, because I often fall right back into it. I'll get up and watch TV or do anything I can to get out of that dream mode.

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      Keep telling yourself that you don't want to lucid dream... People here are gonna try to convince you to enjoy lucid dreaming...

      Look around the forums, there are many threads that explain how to deal with nightmares... I would purchase The World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge because there's a section in there that deals with nightmares... You should get the satisfaction of experiencing pleasant lucid dreams...

      *I'm not sure how to spell Stephen LaBerge
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      The reason I dislike it is because it always occurs during nightmares. At some point, I wake up consciously and realize I'm dreaming.

      I try (rather pointlessly) to do something in real life to wake myself up. I try to move a toe or make a tiny whisper or open my eyes. I'm completely paralyzed. Although I know my husband is sleeping next to me, I can't get him to realize I need to wake up.

      When I finally do wake up, I can't go back to sleep for hours, because I often fall right back into it. I'll get up and watch TV or do anything I can to get out of that dream mode.
      Strange, conquering nightmares is one of the popular reasons for people to START lucid dreaming. I'm afraid I don't have any advice though.
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      To be honest, I'm at a point where I don't want any lucid dreaming, even if it is pleasant. I absolutely hate the feeling of paralysis and not being able to wake up. So please, if there is a way to just not have them at all, I would strongly prefer that.

      I just woke up from one, so I'm a little hysterical right now. Please forgive me if I sound like a lunatic!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Grunkie7 View Post
      Strange, conquering nightmares is one of the popular reasons for people to START lucid dreaming. I'm afraid I don't have any advice though.
      Yes, I've been researching that and saw that. How ironic!

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      Instead of trying to wake up try simply changing the dream. If you hone your skills then you can either fly away or change the dream.

      Usually simply closing your eyes should wake you up. Try that, don't worry about your nightmare hurting you, if you've realized that it's a dream then you know that it's not real.

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      Hmm I see. Actually being Lucid is the best way to handle a nightmare.

      I've faced them many times. often once you overcome a recurring nightmare while Lucid, it does not come back. At least that's how it usually is for me.

      Next time, once you realize your dreaming try to relax and know that there is nothing that can harm you no matter what. Because your really safe in bed sleeping.

      When you know your dreaming, you have the ability to take charge and overcome any problem. Once you do this a couple times, you will have confidence and it won't bother you anymore. And you can just have some fun.

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      Sorry missed those last couple of posts. I really don't think there is a way to make yourself not know. but I don't know everything. Maybe talk to a doctor and see if they can give you something to suppress recall.

      But I never like to recommend drugs as a solution. It would be much better to overcome the nightmares on your own.
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      do you hate LD or do you hate nightmares?

      i agree with Caradon too lazy to quote properly:
      "being Lucid is the best way to handle a nightmare."
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      Grunkie, for me it is worse than not knowing it's just a nightmare, because the paralysis and inability to wake up are scarier than any nightmare I've had!

      Ninja, I've only been able to change the dream successfully one time. I was being chased, and first I tried the usual things, like moving a toe, or screaming in my sleep to wake my husband so he can wake me. Then, I tried something new--I jumped off a cliff! Then I woke up. That was the only time I was able to control the dream.

      Closing my eyes--I have never tried that and definitely will!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Jones View Post
      do you hate LD or do you hate nightmares?

      i agree with Caradon too lazy to quote properly:
      "being Lucid is the best way to handle a nightmare."
      I hate the lucid dreams because I've had so many nightmares.

      It's like being attacked by a dog and then having a fear of dogs. Of course, not all dogs are mean, but you have a deep-seated fear of them because of bad experience.

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      By the way, thank you to all who have replied. I sincerely appreciate everyone's advice!

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      hear me out, if you realize your dreaming then why do these nightmares annoy you so much? If you know your not gonna get hurt then why not put more time into releasing your potenital? If someones chasing you then turn them into a butterfly or blow them up with an H-bomb, the possibilities are endless. Maybee your not really having a lucid dream after all?
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      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      hear me out, if you realize your dreaming then why do these nightmares annoy you so much. If you know your not gonna get hurt then why not put more time into releasing your potenital. If someones chasing you then turn them into a butterfly or blow them up with an H-bomb, the possibilities are endless. Maybee your not really having a lucid dream after all?
      Oh, they are lucid dreams alright, but I can't control them. I feel absolutely STUCK.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Make it Stop View Post
      To be honest, I'm at a point where I don't want any lucid dreaming, even if it is pleasant. I absolutely hate the feeling of paralysis and not being able to wake up. So please, if there is a way to just not have them at all, I would strongly prefer that.

      I just woke up from one, so I'm a little hysterical right now. Please forgive me if I sound like a lunatic!
      Your problem may not be the lucid dreaming itself but may be the fear. Fear can wreak havoc on many things in life, not just lucid dreaming. Maybe if you control your fear your lucid dreams wont be a worry anymore.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Make it Stop View Post
      I've had lucid dreams since I was a teenager. They've become more frequent as I get older. I do not wish to have lucid dreams.

      I've tried taking sleeping pills such as Unisom, in hopes that they would stop, but it doesn't work.

      I know that for many people, they are enjoyable. But please understand that I do not have them by choice, and that is a very troubling feeling.

      I would welcome any advice!

      I think you're one of the, as people say, "Naturals". It means you Lucid Dream all the time even if you don't like it. I don't really know much about being able to stop, but I do know that people's suggestions are correct. If you close your eyes, blink really hard, you'll wake up. You can try that, or, summon excitement, if you summon excitement and possibly anxiety you will wake up for certain, works all the time for me. But that's only if you really have to wake yourself up, only saying, because I don't like waking up in the middle of the night, I start to sweat, I remember being sick once for some unknown reason. But no, that was a completely different story, the food I had was so overwhelming it made my stomach cry and I woke up in the middle of the night, went to the toilet and let's just say, it wasn't a nice experience. Sorry, I'll carry on with my god like advice now while I stand on my big rock.

      But I don't think you want to wake up. I'm sorry to say but I don't really have much advice for you, other than to just let the lucid go by without even trying to do anything. Or here's something, try going to sleep in your Lucid Dream! That's something you could try, but there is always the risk of waking up in another, heh. Don't worry mate, I'm sure it'll all work out safe and sound.

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      Try going to sleep in my dream! That is an interesting one that I will definitely try next time!!

      Hey, it can't hurt~

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      Quote Originally Posted by Make it Stop View Post
      Try going to sleep in my dream! That is an interesting one that I will definitely try next time!!

      Hey, it can't hurt~
      That's the spirit.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Make it Stop View Post
      The reason I dislike it is because it always occurs during nightmares. At some point, I wake up consciously and realize I'm dreaming.

      I try (rather pointlessly) to do something in real life to wake myself up. I try to move a toe or make a tiny whisper or open my eyes. I'm completely paralyzed. Although I know my husband is sleeping next to me, I can't get him to realize I need to wake up.

      When I finally do wake up, I can't go back to sleep for hours, because I often fall right back into it. I'll get up and watch TV or do anything I can to get out of that dream mode.
      I HATE THAT!!!!!!
      That used to happen to me every single night! Now it still happens but I figured out a way to beat it.. and it actually happens less now..

      If you are willing to use sleeping pills then you can do this:

      1)When you are in bed and you can't move any parts of your body, I'm sure if you put ALLOT of effort into it you'll be able to barely move your legs or your arms. Just slightly enough to have some more controll.

      2)After that you will need to sit up.You will probably feel really tired and will feel like you don't have the energy to get up out of bed, but tell yourself that you NEED to sit up. Remember to not take too long because you'll keep telling your self that and before you know it you'll be asleep again and you'll have lost controll of your body again. So hurry when your doing it.

      3)Once your up, get out of bed, and walk around your house or something. Anything that will really prove that you are not limited anymore, and do that for about 5 minutes. And try to lose dream recall.

      4)Usually after that, you will not feel tired at all, and will not be able to fall back asleep. That's when the sleeping pills come in. Take some sleeping pills and you'll fall back asleep.


      I don't know if that'll work for you but it worked for me. I'm trying to be able to controll my dreams again.

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      in nightmares, once you realize you're dreaming, embrace/kiss whatever's scaring you. trust me.
      Last edited by Mrs. Jones; 05-08-2008 at 11:24 PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Make it Stop View Post
      Oh, they are lucid dreams alright, but I can't control them. I feel absolutely STUCK.
      maybe you should try to work on dream control?
      that seems like it might be easier than for you to stop lucid dreaming
      We are each our own personal god. Never is this more apparent than in our dreams.

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      and more rewarding

      i think it's your defeatist attitude that's holding you back from being able to take control. that's not a criticism- if i could phrase it better, i would. sorry
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      If you don't even try to have Lucid Dreams and you can't make them stop, then you need to learn to love fear. You need to make peace with Sleep Paralysis. It is a beautiful thing. It happens every night to everyone whether or not they are aware of it or not and it is for our good. And it is relaxing. Your fear is what is defeating you. Surround yourself in white light in bed before you go to sleep, during the dream, and during sleep paralysis. You need to try to relax and have hope. Yes, have hope. I wish I was a natural like you. These nightmares are a part of yourself that you need to face. Running away is only running away from yourself. Don't shut down. This is a great opportunity for growth. See it for that and feel lucky. Have an optimistic attitude towards it. Imagine how great you will feel once you conquer your fears and you can enjoy Lucid Dreaming fearlessly. Also when you accept that part of yourself the scary stuff represents and you conquer your fears, you will have a lot more life energy available to you in waking life and in dreaming. You will have more lightness in your step. Oh how I hope you don't run away from this opportunity anymore!
      Here is a technique to get control over fear so you can have control in your dreams: Take a hot shower. Get all warm. Then turn the water to cold very quickly. Here is the technique: watch your breath. Don't catch your breath or hold your breath but keep your breath calm and smooth and relaxed.
      I have a feeling that in your dreams your fear does the same thing the cold water does to you. It makes you freeze up and want to escape. Also this technique is real good for your meridians and chakras and aura. Or you can try jumping into a cold body of water and keeping your breath relaxed.
      Good Luck!

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      Reportedly the most effective medication for treating nightmares is currently considered valium. I would try other non-drug suggestions first, but if nothing else is working I think this is worth a shot, a psychiatrist would have no problem prescribing you some if you honestly describe your situation.
      "If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa


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