Thread: Christanity and Lucidicity?

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

Excuse me, are you f***ing kidding me? You're telling him that if he can't explain LDing to his close-minded superstitious misled mother, he should give up something that can give him once-in-a-lifetime experiences ON COMMAND?

I'm with -InsaneKid- on the point that someone, especially while living under their parent's roof, should honor their parents. That includes following their direction. However, in the case where you're dealing with the topic of dreams in general, there's not a whole lot one can do aside from ignoring the dreams. If someone is faced with a parent who believes that lucid dreaming is bad, it is a matter of explaining what it is in a rational and logical way.

Personally, I think that it's often a trust issue between the parent and child. If the parent trusts their kid to make good decisions, then they shouldn't have a problem with the idea of being consciously aware and making decisions in dreams. If the parent doesn't trust their kid, it makes sense that they would fear that the young man/lady would do something "wrong" while lucid. There are those who just feel that dreaming is evil in general, and with them, all you can do is tell them that it's not and hope for the best.

I don't like the idea of going behind the parent's back and blatantly disrespecting them, but to be completely honest, there's not a whole lot that can be done if a parent doesn't want their child to dream any more.

Great points Amethyst Star.

@pojmaster17q, what I am saying (much like Amethyst Star stated) is that so long as you are living in your parent's house then you should respect their opinions and abide by their rules. Once you move out, you are on your own to make the descisions you think best, even if they are bad ones.

@ninja9578, please don't classify "Christians" in this catigory simply because you have met a few that have wierd and/or twisted views. In the church I go to I have yet to find a Christian with that outlook. There are some superstitious Christians though, but that doesn't mean that all Christians are like that. There are superstitious non-Christians also, does that mean every person that doesn't believe in Christ is superstitious? No.

Dude... it's knowing you're dreaming. Why ask them in the first place? I don't get why people are so attached to honoring the opinions of their parents that they can't make exceptions for such things. Just because you live in their house they can't control what you remember (that you're dreaming.) What if you're a natural lucid dreamer and your parents don't approve? Are you supposed to take some pills to suppress dreams?

Originally Posted by Amethyst Star

I don't like the idea of going behind the parent's back and blatantly disrespecting them, but to be completely honest, there's not a whole lot that can be done if a parent doesn't want their child to dream any more.

There's not much one can do about dreaming, so at the least don't rub your parents nose in the fact that you're still trying to become lucid or have out of body experiences or whatnot.

My Grandmother is a Christian, and is very passionate towards her religion. I told her about lucid dreaming and she didn't have a big problem with it. I don't see why your mom is so worried about it. Well, I need to know how worried your mother is. On a scale of 1/10, how worried is your Mom?

Originally Posted by Resus4ur

My Grandmother is a Christian, and is very passionate towards her religion. I told her about lucid dreaming and she didn't have a big problem with it. I don't see why your mom is so worried about it. Well, I need to know how worried your mother is. On a scale of 1/10, how worried is your Mom?

Lets not forget that some christians think Harry Potter Novels are the devils work.

Oh, and that the Earth is literally 6000 years old.

Originally Posted by moonshine

Lets not forget that some christians think Harry Potter Novels are the devils work.

Oh, and that the Earth is literally 6000 years old.

Poor Harry.

Concerning the Earth, I once wrote a satire article which asked the question ..

"What if the universe came into existence 4 seconds ago?"

How would any of us know that IF ..

1) Everything -- galaxies, quasars, fossils, etc were PRE-aged

2) All humans were implanted with years and years of memory even though their real age was .. 4 seconds

Meaning, I could look at the red-shifted light from a galaxy and computations would tell me that it's 12 billion light years away (which it is). Yet in reality, in the satire, it's only .. 4 seconds old.

I think that folks who say that the earth is 6000 years old base that on the detailed geneology beginning with the bible's "Adam" to the bible's "Jesus" (which covers about 4000 years). I'm sure that everybody knows, however, that today's science virtually proves that billions of years have passed since SOMETHING went bang.

Hence the 6000 year'ers are forced to choose between believing that OR attempting to explain the discrepency by saying that everything was created with "the appearance of age" .. 6000 years ago. There are, however, some who understand that biblical geneology, but also find ways to reconcile that geneology with what science and their own eyes tell them -- that being, the earth is ancient, ie billions with a "B".

Congratulations. If you've finished this post you are now THIRTY seconds old. Happy birthday.