Thread: Reasons for Lucid Dreaming

This is in answer to 'Why should I lucid dream? What good is it?'
So together with some others (eg AcidBasick), we've compiled a list for you
Remember that virtually anything is possible in a lucid dream - so there are no limits

1 ) Its damn fun, and brings enjoyment ... hell if you dont think dream sex is good, something is wrong !
2 ) You can overcome your fears and nightmares - which falls through to waking life (fears = nightmares = fears)
3 ) You can learn a lot about how your mind works, your subconscious, and a bit about 'awareness'
4 ) You can investigate stuff like OOBE and AP for yourself, if you try hard enough
5 ) You can investigate stuff like 'unlocking memories'... although this can be dangerous too
6 ) You are more likely to experience anomalies like shared dreaming. In fact, my wife managed to cause one...
7 ) You end up with interesting hobbies to impress others with
8 ) You can learn about yourself and your reaction to situations that would never occur in real life. Eg - change your gender, be president or welcome aliens...
9 ) You can learn and practice for physical and mental activities. Such as playing a sport or figuring out a problem. LaBerge's research suggests that signals from the brain to the muscles involved in these activities are identical to waking life.
10 ) You can experience things that you otherwise would not be able to in waking life - even your greatest fantasies. Travel to the distant reaches of the galaxy, go on that dream vacation you've always wanted, or swim deep under the ocean. Similar to ( 8 )
11 ) Waking up from a successful lucid dream can change your entire day. It can put you in a fantastic mood.
12 ) You become more 'sensory aware'. Your whole life, including lucid dreaming, can become an intense experience.
13 ) It can inspire creativity. One can get many ideas for art in dreams.
14 ) You can use it to get a different perspective on a challenge or obstacle in your life. You can converse with yourself in a very real environment.
15 ) You can grow spiritually, by expanding your mind to understand those perspectives that your normally would not (by experiencing them in 'interactive' dreams)

Each of these points has its own research and growth potential
Take ( 13 ) for example, you could create poems and essays straight from the subconscious! (Take a blank paper, think of a topic and have the topic get written to the paper - and read it)

Hope that inspires

PS: Check out the Lucid Experience Checklist for some ideas (some silly, some not)
Also check out the research team section for some experiments you could try

Were we not meant to reply to this one, or am I just the first one? Cause I'm sure there's bound to be good discussion on the topic of "why lucid dream". That's a really comprehensive list, covers all the bases pretty good - perhaps a good question to pose (oh I'm sure it has somewhere, I'm just new here) would be, what one of those reasons did you get interested in it for?

I'm interested simply because I don't think there's enough time in the day to do all the things I'd like to do... why not make use of the warped sense of time dreams have to get twice, or three times, or four times as much done in one day? Learn more... study more... experience more. Sounds like a valuable use of time to me.

Originally posted by incognito
Were we not meant to reply to this one, or am I just the first one? Cause I'm sure there's bound to be good discussion on the topic of \"why lucid dream\". That's a really comprehensive list, covers all the bases pretty good

It's still reasonably new, and most of the discussion took place in a different thread
Thanks for starting the discussion up in here though - the other one died

Originally posted by incognito+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(incognito)</div>

perhaps a good question to pose (oh I'm sure it has somewhere, I'm just new here) would be, what one of those reasons did you get interested in it for?[/b]

Numbers 1, 2, 6 and 10 I guess

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I'm interested simply because I don't think there's enough time in the day to do all the things I'd like to do... why not make use of the warped sense of time dreams have to get twice, or three times, or four times as much done in one day? Learn more... study more... experience more. Sounds like a valuable use of time to me.

Not a bad idea, but the biggest challenge here is that usually your logic is a bit warped in dreams - takes a lot of effort to think when you're virtually unconscious
Experiencing more - definitely. You can do things you've always wanted to, and see your reactions to the situations... 8)

Originally posted by Placebo+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Placebo)</div>

Numbers 1, 2, 6 and 10 I guess [/b]

The whole possibility of shared dreaming is just an amazing concept. I really don't know a whole lot about the possibilities and facts at this stage, and I'm sure there's bound to be threads dedicated to just that topic in particular somewhere around this informational gold gmine, but putting alllll facts aside just long enough to say, oh the things I could show people. The things they could probably show me..

I'm an observer by nature, and people entertain me a great deal. I've seen people in almost every possible habitat/situation over the past 20 years, except that one - what's going on inside their head, and despite the fact that I think I'm fairly intuitive at discovering this, it would be an amazing experience to see it first hand.

I'm also a very visual thinker, I don't so much 'talk to myself' in my head as I simply see things, and feel things, which backfires quite often as I'm not so well at finding words to describe all these things in a conversation with somebody. I'm just wondering what kind of amazingly intelligent conversation you could have with somebody simply by being able to *show* them what you mean.

I could go into more depth on this, but I'll hold back until I know more on the topic. I'm sure there's somebody out there reading to this point and just itching to hop in and warn me about the dangers of shared dreaming or attempting to locate somebody else/pull them into a dream... don't worry about me. This is all purely speculation.


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Not a bad idea, but the biggest challenge here is that usually your logic is a bit warped in dreams - takes a lot of effort to think when you're virtually unconscious Experiencing more - definitely. You can do things you've always wanted to, and see your reactions to the situations... *8)

I'm afraid I'm going to have to let you in on a secret... my logic is a wee bit warped in waking life too. Okay, I know that's not what you were getting at, but it begged to be said. I'll probably say a lot more grandoise things in future posts around here than just that, all I'll say now in my defense is that I realize nothing comes without a price or without effort. I'm a very theoretical person though, so I will randomly spit out ideas as they come to me.

Random idea: I'd pull Bush into a shared dream that I had control over... and start him on a constant loop of being impeached... only to wake up and realize he's still president... only to be impeached that afternoon... only to wake up and realize he owns the largest oil company in the world... only to realize that oil's been dried up for five years now and the world runs on alternate energy sources... only to...

I have no idea where that came from. I think it's time for The Daily Show. Or time to go back to sleep.

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Hehe you're amusing

About the shared dreaming - its not an easily achieved thing at this point. I've been one of the lucky ones, but its not like I can arrange them on my calendar
However the possibilities are great - like you hint at. Especially if all the people are lucid!

As for dangers - I don't think enough is known about it to even *know* if there's any dangers. So far - no known dangers

I guess I was more just covering my own arse then... cause I do remember actually researching a little about the possibilities of pulling others into a lucid state, or discovering them there, etc - it really starts hinting a lot on the spiritual side of the whole dreamscape, the different planes (spiritual, ethereal, physical, etc) and other possibly more farfetched items like the akashic records, I believe they're called, which actually have really interesting connotations towards another study I was just doing recently.

I'm glad I'm amusing haha, I have a way of introducing myself to new groups of people, and it usually involves running right into the middle and making a severe ass of myself. I find this works awesome, as people are too busy laughing to realize they don't know you. I'm keepin it kind of on the light side here as much as possible tho.

As far as dangers go, lack of knowledge in of itself is a huge danger, in my books. The less you know, the more damage you can do before you realize you've even done anything wrong. Messing around somewhere with obviously vast potential such as the dreamscape and pulling somebody else into it with you, well... I'd suggest treading lightly for anybody in that scenario.

I'm really interesting in lucid dreaming but how do you do it is the question????????
could you give me some tips??? i've become semi lucid in a couple of dreams but thats all so far because i woke up pretty soon after i realised. thanks

kiss_dont_kill_ sence this is your first post I'll welcome you here. WELCOME!

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I'm really interesting in lucid dreaming but how do you do it is the question???????? *
could you give me some tips??? i've become semi lucid in a couple of dreams but thats all so far because i woke up pretty soon after i realised. thanks [/b]

Go here if your still confuzed you should talk to a dream guide or ask around.
tutorials

Originally posted by kiss_dont_kill_
I'm really interesting in lucid dreaming but how do you do it is the question????????
could you give me some tips??? i've become semi lucid in a couple of dreams but thats all so far because i woke up pretty soon after i realised. *thanks

Like LordCorean said, you should look around at the tutorials section
And if you have a specific question unrelated to what the topic is about, use a 'new topic' button
'Post reply' means you want to comment on the topic (in this case 'reasons to lucid dream')

I guess I'll give this a go

For me life seems to be about the big questions. Death is not the end, but what is it? Perhaps lucid dreaming can help me answer some of lifes big questions.

Also as I think many of my posts will no doubt demonstrate, words can seem a very poor means of communication. I hope there is another way.

oh, did I mention I like to fly. mmmm wooosh

You didn't add the option "Why not?"

o man. the possibilities of dream sharing... it hurts your head if u just barely think about the pros and cons of it. and not 2 mention pulling someone out of thier dream and into urs. that could be fun and all, but so bad it's not even funny.

well let's look at this, we are already grasping the ability of extending your dreams and not waking up. then, one day, we perfect it. keeping this in mind, we could "kid-nap" say Bush and hold him hostage in "the dream world". o, no problem, he could just wake up. well what if you were able 2 keep him asleep somehow using one of this methods. very bad...

or

some people don't go through complete Sleep Paralises when sleeping, correct?? keeping this in mind, let's take the same situation as before, "kid-napping" Bush. you then could say take his hand and shove it into his throat. then, use the "method" of not letting him wake up. he'd be sitting in bed, struggling for air and not be able 2 wake up. then BAM, he's dead. a dream murdur...

or

you could kid nap a friend and be a in the same dream. kool and all, but what if you and him got into a fight?? you'd start 2 fight?? who would win?? who would be stronger?? how in the world would u be able 2 determine that?? another brain bender...

i only want 2 stratch the surfice of this topic, the possibilities are endless...

Originally Posted by Knuckles2126

you could kid nap a friend and be a in the same dream. kool and all, but what if you and him got into a fight?? you&#39;d start 2 fight?? who would win?? who would be stronger?? how in the world would u be able 2 determine that?? another brain bender...[/b]

I have two thougts on this topic...
1. If your friend was also able to become lucid in his or her dream, then sparring would be a lot of fun, sort of like in a movie or cartoon, with all sorts of crazy special effects.
2. If your friend was not lucid, it would be fun to just jump into their head and become involved in their dream, if that&#39;s even possible, (I&#39;m commenting on something that&#39;s way over my head here).

To me, there are so many possibilities with Lucid dreaming, and that&#39;s what motivates me to try.

Acctually "Dreamscape", a old movie i saw yesterday take up dreamsharing... and dream murder. Has some nice ideas in it.

a movie about dreaming?? i still have yet 2 see one of those. i'll check it out.

Originally posted by Aphius
You didn't add the option \"Why not?\"

Was gonna mention that but Aphius covered it.

I think that if two people sharing a dream disagree, the dream would have to split. I mean, lucid dreaming is all self-delusion (all dreaming is, but lucid dreaming is just picking what delusion to believe), and even if there&#39;s some communication, nothing is going to happen to you that you don&#39;t believe possible. Bush couldn&#39;t be murdered unless he went into a lucid without sleep paralysis and believed it was possible for people to control each other through dreams, or else just plain believed in psychic mind control (so that he could believe you controlling him when he wasn&#39;t dreaming).
It would be the same thing with waking up - you wouldn&#39;t be able to stop him from waking up unless he believed you could. It&#39;s what your mind does that keeps you asleep, the stay-asleep methods are just tricks that have the side effect of keeping you asleep if you are doing them.

I&#39;m trying to find the line between the new age and good parts of this - I&#39;ve had an LD before, with no techniques besides wanting to badly (based on a casual remark by my dad that you can control dreams if you know you&#39;re dreaming), but some other things I see here look suspicious - such as dream guides. I think I&#39;ll go with simple godmoding and do my storytelling there where it will appear in full detail.

You can "see" what people are thinking based on your thoughts. wonder if that made sense. <---I love those things!

Yeah, that reminds me of a lucid dream I tried

Walk into a busy room, listen to each person's thoughts individually. Then 'zoom out' and listen to everyone's thoughts at once
Careful not to strain your brain too much
I heard reports that some people could not use a computer or TV for a while (monitor was blank)
Took a couple of days to recover

honestly though is dream sex good?

Originally posted by Kitetsu2
honestly though is dream sex good?

Dream sex can be absolutely incredible
Not always, sometimes its not too good - but at times it seriously outdoes real life sex. For me anyway

The thing is.. the physical annoyances like 'damn cant do that like this... too uncomfortable... ' generally don't happen in a dream
You're view of the dream is not restricted to the position of your eyes
And you can experiment with things you could never do in real life

Now that you mention it... its been a while .. hmm

i've been told its as good as you want it to be

*expects it to be phenomenal*

Originally Posted by Kitetsu

i&#39;ve been told its as good as you want it to be
*expects it to be phenomenal*
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Hi, i&#39;m kinda new at this. Any tips on lucid dreaming?

I read a few books by Carlos Castaneda (Don Juan series) for those not familiar is about a spiritual shamman that takes a journalist (castaneda) and teaches him the ways of sorcery and a lot of it deals with Lucid dreaming. one of the books I think it was journey to ixtlan ( I'm not too sure since I read 4 out of his 10 books abotu 9 years ago) Don Juan tells him he's got to prepare for a spiritual battle and that means that he has to enter another shamman's dreams and kill him. the nigh tthat he does battle the book reports of Don Juan's body coming to close death, his heart beats were really slow alomst not there. the morning The shamman that was supposed to die was dead and Don Juan spent about 3 days very ill and explained that, when ever he enters someone else's dreams with teh intent of harm he always gets really sick.

The books are written as journals, the dream sections of the books are really somethign else and good reading, dunno how much to believe but he explains the dream world and other mind states. The use of peyote is very common in teh book too and is used to explore the mind more, damn I need to get me some.

Reasons for lucid dreaming?!?!

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no brainer.