Introduction

[mountainsofthemoon]

i have some questions... does anyone relate to any of this stuff: i love hiking and backpacking. i love nature. i listen to grateful dead and joplin and stuff like that but also many other kinds of music. i smoke bud. i love to write. does doing drugs effect lucid dreaming or any kind of dreaming? about a year ago i started a dream journal and my recall was about two dreams a night. my first try at lucid dreaming i think it was the wild technique that i tried. i relaxed my body and muscles and i focused on an invisible rope which i grabbed onto with my mental hand or whatever you call it. after a while my hearing started to fade and i could feel a vibration. my heart started to beat really fast and i could feel myself getting really anxious. the whole time i was telling myself to go up and fly around in space. i think i almost achieved lucidity but i dunno....

[slash112]

does doing drugs effect lucid dreaming or any kind of dreaming? about a year ago i started a dream journal and my recall was about two dreams a night. my first try at lucid dreaming i think it was the wild technique that i tried. i relaxed my body and muscles and i focused on an invisible rope which i grabbed onto with my mental hand or whatever you call it. after a while my hearing started to fade and i could feel a vibration. my heart started to beat really fast and i could feel myself getting really anxious. the whole time i was telling myself to go up and fly around in space. i think i almost achieved lucidity but i dunno.... Well, to answer your question, I really don't know. But I'm sure some of the junkies of DV will be glad to answer your question. And well done on achieving SP. Did you enter a dream? And if you did, were you still concious/knew you were dreaming? Because if you did, you were lucid.

[mountainsofthemoon]

no i got scared i dint enter a dream i opened my eyes before i actually left my body i think..so it was sleep paralysis that i achieved?

[insight]

I think you are mixing two things up - LD (lucid reaming) and AP (astral projection). I once tried to escape my body as well - I also got a little scared and stopped - it felt like body started to vibrate a bit and focus went really strong.

[mountainsofthemoon]

ya i think i am confusing them.. what is the difference do u know?

[slash112]

No no no no no, you weren't confusing them. I think insight just didnt understand what you said. @insight, what he was talking about was making the move from the real world to the dream world.

[mountainsofthemoon]

i just reread monroes techniques for astral projection its pretty amazing..i was getting AP mixed up with LD..for some reason astral projection appeals to me more in a way.. but i will continue to try both..

[insight]

LD is what this site is all about - LD (lucid dreaming) is when you are aware during your dream that you are dreaming. You don't have to control it in order to call it a LD. AP is when you are actually aware that somewhere is your physical body and you are in another place. Some say that you may actually in a dream visit some places where you have never been in your life and when you get there for real, you understand that you really saw the place ! Like remote viewing... but I haven't experienced it. So in this field I'm a philosopher. Check this for the local language: http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=71202

[mountainsofthemoon]

oh well is there a difference then between AP and LD?

[mountainsofthemoon]

sorry my posts are coming late..im not trying to not paying attention to what u guys are saying im jus postin a little later

[insight]

Yes. LD is just a dream and you are not aware of your body. And if you do (for example after drinking a lot before bed) you feel yourself inside your body. AP is when you are outside of your body, and you know that you have a body somewhere else Read about OoBE as well. In a way they are just formalities and definitions. They are just to understand eachother well. What matters the most is the experience itself. I'm happy that you have had already a year full of experience with a DJ (Dream Journal).

[slash112]

Ooooh, so you were thinking on AP. Woops. I thought you meant something else when you said "out of your body" I thought it was a bit more metaphorically than that.

[mountainsofthemoon]

thanks for being so helpful everyone ya it sucks cause i started a journal a year ago and i lost it and now ive had to start a new one

[insight]

The main thing is that you already have the experience and skill to remember them. You are used to that. And probably you can remember some of the DS (some repetitive Dream Signs that occur over and over again). But still - I can imagine the loss :S