Thread: Semi Lucid

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I dislike the idea of 'half-lucidity'. I really really dislike it.
If you knew you were dreaming, you were lucid. If not, you weren't.

But congrats on the cool dream, anyways.

In one of my dreams I remember that I had a criminal path in front of me and a chance to make a dicision to go that way or not. Then I became LUCID ! I knew that I was in a dream so I decided to go along the path of which I would never choose in real life

...So that counts as LD?

Originally Posted by insight

In one of my dreams I remember that I had a criminal path in front of me and a chance to make a dicision to go that way or not. Then I became LUCID ! I knew that I was in a dream so I decided to go along the path of which I would never choose in real life

...So that counts as LD?

Yup. You knew you were dreaming.

Originally Posted by CarmineEternity

Well, I guess I could say this is exciting news. Last night, I had a dream, and without doing a reality check or anything, I simply became half lucid. I wouldn't say this is my first lucid, but I would say I am getting closer. I was on some sort of bridge, and I thought it would be a good idea to jump off. When I hit the ground, I wanted to fly. I tried, and tried, but I couldn't, so I imagined a flying pill being in my pocket and it worked. I was hovering for about 3 seconds, when the dream changed scene and I lost my hazy half lucidity.

Well, did you realise that you were dreaming? If you didnt, you werent lucid. If you did, then you were lucid. There is no other level of lucidity, as no-Name said. Saying you were kinda lucid is like adding a "2", or a "0.5" to a binary number when there should only be "1"s and "0"s. You know? It's either on or off.

people say: oh shit, here comes Mariano, everybody down!

yes, there are levels of lucidity.
for me there are only 4.

Non-Lucid = you don't know you are dreaming
Pre-Lucid = in the dream you say " oh yeah, this is a dream" (you get a moment of clarity, not lucidity) but you don't become lucid
Semi-Lucid = you become half-aware that you are dreaming, you know you are dreaming, but you are still in Auto-Pilot(doing things unconsciously like in a non-lucid), so we say that you know you are dreaming in a subconscious level
Lucid = you know you are dreaming, you are aware of it, and you are not in auto-pilot

very simple, as you can see

Originally Posted by Mariano

Pre-Lucid = in the dream you say " oh yeah, this is a dream" (you get a moment of clarity, not lucidity) but you don't become lucid
Semi-Lucid = you become half-aware that you are dreaming, you know you are dreaming, but you are still in Auto-Pilot(doing things unconsciously like in a non-lucid), so we say that you know you are dreaming in a subconscious level

Your "pre-lucid" is the exact same "level" of lucidity as non-lucid. You are not aware that you are dreaming.

and your "semi-lucid" is, as I read it, the exact same "level"of lucidity as being lucid. Control has fuck-all to do with lucidity.

Originally Posted by Mariano

people say: oh shit, here comes Mariano, everybody down!

yes, there are levels of lucidity.
for me there are only 4.

Non-Lucid = you don't know you are dreaming
Pre-Lucid = in the dream you say " oh yeah, this is a dream" (you get a moment of clarity, not lucidity) but you don't become lucid
Semi-Lucid = you become half-aware that you are dreaming, you know you are dreaming, but you are still in Auto-Pilot(doing things unconsciously like in a non-lucid), so we say that you know you are dreaming in a subconscious level
Lucid = you know you are dreaming, you are aware of it, and you are not in auto-pilot

very simple, as you can see

Originally Posted by slash112

Your "pre-lucid" is the exact same "level" of lucidity as non-lucid. You are not aware that you are dreaming.

and your "semi-lucid" is, as I read it, the exact same "level"of lucidity as being lucid. Control has fuck-all to do with lucidity.

For once, I agree with Slash.
Please stop posting your false information, there is no such thing as a 'false lucid', 'semi lucid', or anything else like that. Stop over complicating things.

Originally Posted by no-Name

For once, I agree with Slash.

wooohoooo!

nobody is complicating things, you just are completely blind.
pre-lucid means that you was near of becoming aware.
I NEVER taught about control.
it's not false information.

here we go again..

A pre-lucid dream is one in which the dreamer considers the question, "Am I asleep and dreaming?" The dreamer may or may not come to the correct conclusion. Such experiences are liable to occur to people who are deliberately cultivating lucid dreams, but may also occur spontaneously to those with no prior intention to achieve lucidity in dreams. (wikipedia)

Semi-Lucid Dream:
a dream in where you become aware that you are dreaming to a subconcious level, but you are not completely aware.
you will act in auto-pilot mode, like a non-lucid dream. this means: you will fly for example, unconsciously, or you will say "this is a lucid dream", again unconscously, but the most important thing is ....YOU STILL BEING UNCONSCIOUS....but the feeling of the dream is different, now that you are half-there. in other words, your mind struggle to become more aware, like in Real Life, but fails, and only gets to the middle of the path.

Lucid Dream: you aware that you are dreaming, you are complete conscious and you are not on auto-pilot anymore, you will be in the present moment.


for example, if you are preparing to stabilize after you become lucid...in a lucid dream, you will do it(if you remember of course)
but in a semi-lucid dream you won't even have the chance to remember, because you are not conscious yet.


it's not that hard.




The only problem with both you is that you never experienced this, so you can't understand it....but, it's not necessary to experience it.

dude, your "pre-lucid" thing is so stupid. If you ask yourself wether you are dreaming or not and come to the conclusion that you are not dreaming. that is called non-lucid. no need to re-categorize it.

And your "semi-lucid" thing, i noticed you used the words "on a subconscious level", well, I'm afraid that the mere fact that it isn't concious, means that is isn't lucid at all. If you do actually realise you are dreaming, you are concious.

so "semi-lucid" is also non-lucid, there is no reason to re-categorize that either.

semi-lucid is just to coin the fact that you are still non-lucid but thinking and believing you are lucid... you are unconscious.

For once, I agree with no-name.
There are not levels of lucidity. That doesn't even make sense.

Originally Posted by Mariano

nobody is complicating things, you just are completely blind.
pre-lucid means that you was near of becoming aware.
I NEVER taught about control.
it's not false information.

here we go again..

Semi-Lucid Dream:
a dream in where you become aware that you are dreaming to a subconcious level, but you are not completely aware.
you will act in auto-pilot mode, like a non-lucid dream. this means: you will fly for example, unconsciously, or you will say "this is a lucid dream", again unconscously, but the most important thing is ....YOU STILL BEING UNCONSCIOUS....but the feeling of the dream is different, now that you are half-there. in other words, your mind struggle to become more aware, like in Real Life, but fails, and only gets to the middle of the path.

...so you're saying you weren't aware? If you weren't uh, "consciously" aware that you dreaming, then you weren't lucid dreaming.

Wowie zowie

Originally Posted by Mariano

The only problem with both you is that you never experienced this, so you can't understand it....but, it's not necessary to experience it.

Well, I can't speak for no-name and Slash, but I have experienced this. It's called dreaming.

Originally Posted by Mariano

semi-lucid is just to coin the fact that you are still non-lucid but thinking and believing you are lucid... you are unconscious.

But if you are not concious, you cannot know you are dreaming. Knowing you are dreaming requires you to be concious... wait, or the other way round. I can't think properly right now, but that is the best I can explain.

The fact of the matter is you are either concious or not (lucid or not)

for example.
imagine you must smile and laugh, but you don't want to do it, so you will do it forced: that's semi-lucid

imagine you are really happy, and you start to laugh and smile, that's lucid.

one is real.
the other not.

Originally Posted by Mariano

for example.
imagine you must smile and laugh, but you don't want to do it, so you will do it forced: that's semi-lucid

imagine you are really happy, and you start to laugh and smile, that's lucid.

one is real.
the other not.

I'm sorry but it's just too late in the night for me to be decipher a pile of bullshit.

It just made no sense to me. But no matter what you say, you cannot shift what I believe to be true. In fact, this situation doesn't have much to do with truth, It is more to do with pointless categorizations of examples of normal dreams.

it's, when you get older you will understand.

Ok, I'm a bit more awake now. I understand what you are trying to say.

But being forced to do something in a dream when you dont want to Is infact fully lucid. Just no control.

Your explanations of "semi-lucid" keep changing their meaning. Make your mind up.

I had 1 Semi-Lucid(check my DJ). I said I was dreaming but I wasn't actualy counscious of it. Weird...

Originally Posted by Gothic Fighter

I had 1 Semi-Lucid(check my DJ). I said I was dreaming but I wasn't actualy counscious of it. Weird...

You weren't "semi-lucid", you were non-lucid (from the way I read it anyway)

Gosh...

Originally Posted by slash112

You weren't "semi-lucid", you were non-lucid (from the way I read it anyway)

Gosh...

ahá
he was non-lucid.
just we are accostumed to say semi-lucid, to be shorter.

Originally Posted by Mariano

ahá
he was non-lucid.
just we are accostumed to say semi-lucid, to be shorter.

actually, if you could count characters, you would realise that saying semi-lucid is actually longer than saying non-lucid.


Although I don't like the use of the word "semi-lucid", what you can say is "almost became lucid".

And if you can't be bothered writing that because it's too long, that's just stupid.

there are only non-lucid and lucid dreams. You can have different levels of awayness in a lucid dream but as long as you know that you are dreaming it is lucid. If you don't know your dreaming it is not.

Originally Posted by Sugarglider11

there are only non-lucid and lucid dreams. You can have different levels of awayness in a lucid dream but as long as you know that you are dreaming it is lucid. If you don't know your dreaming it is not.

Agreed.

Let's not start this again people. There's enough false info and, not to mention, drama on these boards as it is...

Originally Posted by Snowy Egypt

Agreed.

Let's not start this again people. There's enough false info and, not to mention, drama on these boards as it is...

Yea. I think we should leave it at that.

I also think there should be a sticky thread somewhere saying that there is only two states of lucidity (on and off)