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      Hello i have Questions :)

      Hello, i am new to this world of dreams, and i recently started to improve my dream recalling and dream journal, also i have been trying to do the WILD technique for some days, still no success.
      But i have some questions:

      1- How real does a dream feel? i ask this because, ALL the dreams i have are just like small abstract movies , i mean, i dont feel anything but vision and sometimes my dreams are about A and then suddently it's about B and i find no realism in it :S do i have any Problems or is it normal? and if so, how do i change that?

      2- I have a small feeling that i once had a lucid dream, but now recalling the situation i guess it wasnt really a LD, if it was, then i am disappointed :

      I was in somekind of village or something i cant remeber very well it was a long time ago. Then a friend (in dream) asked me if i was dreaming, and i said i were, and i started flying like a crazy and went to a big city and start killing every one, At that time i only knew that LD existed, but didnt know anything at all about them, and at that time i thougt i had control over the dream, but , now analysing the situation , i guess it wasnt really lucid, because it didnt feel any real at all, i mean, i couldt use any sense but vision, and i guess the 'control' i tought i had, was indeed very linear, and it wasnt really me controlling.
      Was it a lucid dream, or was just a normal dream?

      3- And about SP, last night i tried to reach SP, i guess i almost reached that, but i needed to swallow. I could see a face of a monkey and a Gun and some Dots over my eyes, i guess it was awesome, and i guess it was Hipnagogic halucinations, so i was probbably almost there no? my question is, do swallowing saliva difficult the proccess? and another thing, as i read somewhere in this forum, The trick for you not to lose your Awareness during SP is to stay counting numbers in your head... Is it right? any better idea?



      Lastly, sorry my bad english , it is not my native language.

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      Hello!
      I'll be happy to answer some questions.


      Quote Originally Posted by icept View Post
      1- How real does a dream feel? i ask this because, ALL the dreams i have are just like small abstract movies , i mean, i dont feel anything but vision and sometimes my dreams are about A and then suddently it's about B and i find no realism in it :S do i have any Problems or is it normal? and if so, how do i change that?
      It varies. Sometimes dreams can be vivid and realistic, other times they won't be. Drinking apple juice apparently helps vividness.

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      2- I have a small feeling that i once had a lucid dream, but now recalling the situation i guess it wasnt really a LD, if it was, then i am disappointed :
      Lucidity is really just being conscious and aware you are in a dream. If you ever are aware you are in a dream, rub your hands to "stabilize" the dream.
      Then you can really get the most out of it.

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      Was it a lucid dream, or was just a normal dream?
      Again, if you are aware you are asleep, you were lucid. Sometimes some lucid dreams can be weaker than others.

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      3- And about SP, last night i tried to reach SP, i guess i almost reached that, but i needed to swallow.
      I used to want to lay still and not move, but I never fell asleep doing that. My advice is to just get comfy. If you need to swallow, do it.

      Quote Originally Posted by icept View Post
      The trick for you not to lose your Awareness during SP is to stay counting numbers in your head... Is it right? any better idea?
      I don't know about this, but often I just say to myself "I am lucid" over and over.

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      i don't think i could order myself / remember to rub my hands during a dream (that dream) :S
      I was really hoping that you could feel the Lucid Dream as if it were reality: every single texture on materials, every single little detail , like if you were awake in another dimension, but for what you told me, it varies. does it improve with training and experience?

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      Quote Originally Posted by icept View Post
      i don't think i could order myself / remember to rub my hands during a dream (that dream) :S
      I was really hoping that you could feel the Lucid Dream as if it were reality: every single texture on materials, every single little detail , like if you were awake in another dimension, but for what you told me, it varies. does it improve with training and experience?
      You can feel objects, sensations, and pain in lucid dreams. You can taste. You can hear. But not all the time, at least not for me.
      Remembering to rub your hands should be easy. Remembering things while lucid is key. You need to so you can remember techniques and lucid goals.

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      cool! i am going to pratice. i guess pratice makes perfection.
      Thank you for answering me.
      another question: is it possible to WILD at the first time i go to bed? i mean, not having to wake up during night? because my house is small and if i put a alarm everyone wakes up and that's not nice hehe

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      Quote Originally Posted by icept View Post
      cool! i am going to pratice. i guess pratice makes perfection.
      Thank you for answering me.
      another question: is it possible to WILD at the first time i go to bed? i mean, not having to wake up during night? because my house is small and if i put a alarm everyone wakes up and that's not nice hehe
      I believe you have to enter the REM cycle, so you need to sleep for a few hours first before lucidity is possible. Unfortunately, its not possible to just go to bed at night and fall into a lucid dream. That is why you must find a way to wake up midway through the night. Otherwise, you should be using DILD, where you become lucid during an ordinary dream. Personally, I find DILD less vivid and realistic, and often harder to achieve. But DILD is more suitable for beginners because its more convenient and easier to understand.
      Apparently the REM cycle last several hours after you wake up, which is why some people WILD in the afternoon.

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      Once again i have tried to WILD, but i couldn't even Reach SP...

      i went to bed at 1 am i was very tired, and i just positioned myself into bed in the most confortable position i could find, and i stood totally still without any movement, except the ocasional swallowing. But this time i guess i were really near SP!
      i didnt count the time, but after maybe 15 minutes of being still, i started to feel small autonomous movement of my legs, like small reflexes, very fast. i continued without any movement, and my breath started to get deeper , maybe because i started counting it.
      then i couldnt pass that part, the breath just went normal, and i ocasionally felt another "reflex" in my legs but after a while i started to get bored and stopped, and when i moved , whats my surprise? i almost couldnt move my Legs , but could. i had my muscles very week. I were almost there right??

      and another thing... I try always to keep myself thinking of something , mainly something that has to do with being lucid, and conscious, so i cant lose my lucidity. Is it a good approach? counting And at same time thinking rationally about being lucid, like reporting what im feeling and asking myself to stay lucid etc??
      and when my Hipnagogic Images start to appear, for some Milliseconds i start to lose my rationality, and forget to stay thinking/ counting etc, how can i go past it?

      and another question: When i reach SP, will i be "awake" the necessary to tell myself that the upcoming hallucinations are just that? or will i be like 50% awake ? and SP happens with Closed eyes right?

      thank you. you people are being very good to me by writing tutorials and lots of information, and answering my questions and also opening a new door of oportunities to me. I wish i can Learn a lot from you and someday who knows, teach too

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      Realism varies from person to person & dream to dream

      But do u wana know how real it could be ?

      In one of a LD i tried to test my senses , and i touched the wall in a dream.."it was so so realistic, almost like a real world" - from a thought i doubted it to be a dream.. but RC's were telling me that it is. I couldn't tell the difference b/w real world and dream world in that dream.....

      And now in my waking life when i touch something i sometimes rememba that dream.


      Suppose if you're lucid right now...look around ...
      It can get that much real in my dreams...


      Dreamers do ya agree with me ?

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      hey but every time i remember a (normal) dream i can only remember what i saw, and badly, not anything else, not the sounds, not the textures... Does the fact of being lucid changes that? and does the fact of being lucid makes easy to remember all the details?
      and that Dream i said i had, and i figured i was dreaming, when i woke up i only remembered the key parts of it, what i seen, i didnt remember any detail, not even the face of the person who asked me if i was dreaming, i just know "someone" asked me. :S

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      I agree with superx.

      Regarding to your question, Lucid Dreams are much easier to remember than normal ones because it is much more "realistic".

      What time do you usually sleep? If you're a late sleeper and tend to wake up early with less sleep, I bet that's one of the hindrances of recalling a dream. As much as I would like to tell you a lot more, I suggest your practice dream recalling first. Check this out: http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=66343

      Hope it helps!

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      Hello, During school times i normally go to bed at 1 am and wake up at 7... but now im on 1 week vacation and im using that to pratice more.

      Last night i attempted to WILD once again, i went to bed at midnight, and stood still for about 1 hour with no sucess, i was only focusing on my breath. I guess this time i entered SP but i dont know if it was SP because i didnt feel any Halucinations.. i tell this because somewhere during my attempt i could only feel my eyes, mouth and breath, and my breath was really really slow, as if i were sleeping, but since i have waited so long, around 1 hour, and no signs of hallucinations i just gave up, and i almost couldnt move my legs... so thats why i suppose i were in SP. Was i?

      and this morning i woke up, as always with my dreams erased, then i focused and remember 1 dream. And after some more minutes i remember that probabbly i had a false awakening: I woke up and did 3 Reality Tests and both said it was real, i tried to put my finger tru my hand, no sucess, tried to pinch my nose and breath, no success, tried to pinch my harm to see if it hurts, hurts, i even tried to Levitate my desk and no success, i dont remember anything else, and when i recalled this i also recalled that during that night i never get of my bed (in RL)

      is it progress?

      and yes... I am improving my dream recall

      please tell me what im doing wrong, and try to give more suggestions.

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      Quite confusing. If that was indeed a false awakening, then those RC's you did must have succeeded.

      Regarding SP, I have read that there are some cases that dreamers doesnt see hallucinations or hear voices - in short they don't feel anything. You couldn't move your legs right? I guess that was SP after all

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      i could move them but only with a lot of struggle

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