Quote Originally Posted by Samael View Post
Planned out by whom, exactly? You're suggesting a form of predestination within natural constructs created by our own minds.

Ah, but if you can't trust your own experience, what can you trust? If you experience a lucid dream, then by definition you know that you're dreaming. How can you dream that you know that you're dreaming without knowing that you're dreaming?

Again, planned out by whom? Dreams are mutable; they change according to what your mind is focused on at any given moment. If you suddenly become transfixed by the dolphins swimming along through the air, you might forget all about the zombies that were chasing you a moment ago. Dreams aren't planned out; they change too quickly.
But that is it, you can have a dream that you know you are dreaming, without consciously realising you are dreaming. For example, I could have a dream and in it say to myself I am dreaming but not take any awareness of it as it was just a part of my dream that was supposed to be and therefore the dream will just carry on how it was supposed to. But, I can see where you are coming from here... Would it possibly be a matter of being able to take control once you had said in your dream that you were dreaming? The problem with me at the moment is when I am in a dream, I cannot induce a lucid dream as I just cannot do a reality check or take a look at my surroundings to see if I am dreaming or not - they are not what I am dreaming about, therefore I will not do it. This may be my downfall, as when I say 'planned' I assume that what we dream is set in stone, meaning we have no conscious control over it. This is where I am explaining that maybe lucid dreams are just normal dreams where we think we are dreaming and what descisions we make in them is prewired as I may say, and not what our conscious mind is telling it to do. However, I can see from both replies that you do have a clear feel of consciousness when in a dream. I have not get experienced one so I cannot say, which does not imply I am being skeptical, just curious.

For me, it feels as though the dream was 'prewired' as it does not feel like an experience, just a distant memory you cannot really relate to with feel, smell or sound. I think then that I just need to be able to get past this way of dreaming in order to be able to perform these reality checks and then be able to realise that I am dreaming consciously rather then subconsciosly, so I can then take control over my dream.

What would you guys suggest I do? I have heard about doing reality checks in life all the time, do you think this would be a suitable option for me to take? If not, why? I have read the LD induction techniques but it is just realising I am dreaming that is getting me.

Thanks.