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      Are you the same person in LDs?

      Hi guys! Been a long time reader of this site and now I'm attempting to have LDs! (and had 3... Which weren't very good )

      Just a question though, when in an LD, are you the same person as you are when you are awake? Because I notice that in normal dreams you tend to assume another personality, so would this be different in a LD?

      Also if you are the same person, would it be as if you are just in another world with your thinking unimpaired (given that you had lots of experience with LDs). With the ability to recall waking memories?

      I am planning to use LDs to help me solve problems such as mathematical and computer programming problems (in a visual way of course).

      Thanks for the input!

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      I have loads of different personas in dreams. Usually I'm much more confident in what I'm doing and less shy. In my LDs, I become confident so I can control the dream easily.

      Also if you are the same person, would it be as if you are just in another world with your thinking unimpaired (given that you had lots of experience with LDs). With the ability to recall waking memories?
      Well, usually when you're lucid you're only semi-lucid, not fully lucid, as if you're all fully in the dream. I've had one experience like this, but no others. It is possible, though, if you do get those type of lucids alot.
      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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      I have no idea of what people mean by asking about being different than themselves. How we choose to react to an environment, does not change who we are. To look at the question in the complete abstract, can you assign the relative difference between two boundaries to either of the boundaries? Or in the simple metaphor, is the coffee the cup which holds it?

      Part of exploring an environment dictates trying different responses. In fact, it is how I use to play in the state.

      However, attempting to learn math in a lucid dreamstate, that brings back memories. I tried that one time, and had the most extraordinary response. Fact is, I was tested.

      I went years puzzled about the test, and finally realized that it was my answer. In order to understand mathematics, one has to understand the foundation of all language itself.

      Unless you take that path, you will never know when you are speaking gibberish in any langauge--even in mathematics. For example, one of countless: A number is no more than a name generated by an ordered naming convention. This being the case, it resides in the class name. Now since every member of a class resides in that class by the same definition by which it acquired class membership, what would you think of going to an English grammar class and hearing, negative name, positive name, imaginary name, real name, transfinite name? Or the absurd, class of all names?

      Can you predicate of a form? If a name in of itself, is assigned characteristics other than its given assignment, can it be a name at all?

      When you learn and can teach the foundation of langauge itself, you will understand the principles of every logic system. I believe Plato intimated as much.
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      I am myself. Obviously I become a little more impulsive and do whatever the hell I want, but I am still me.
      I often get some very strong lucidity, and can think clearly. I can remember what I did in the day. I can think what I want to do tomorrow. Hell, I often think about my DJ or think about DV during my lucid dreams. I might suddenly end up on the moon in a weird base and think "I'll have to tell WakingNomad or Raven Knight, maybe they can describe to me their biodome so I can compare it to this building".

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      In the LDs i've had so far, i was always me.
      Although, i know someone who is naturally having DILDs every night. He says he chooses who to be and changes his appearance, then when he returns to the dream world the next night, he looks just how he looked the previous night.

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      Also, when I'm not lucid, I don't feel bound to my moral and ethical standards so I might do things I wouldn't do in real life, but when I become lucid I have the choice to abide by my standards or not. Adding to what Demara said, there have been times I'm only somewhat lucid in my dreams - I know I'm dreaming, but don't have a firm grasp on rational thought. Like others have said, in non-lucid dreams I'm constantly shifting points of view and jump from persona to persona. When I do become lucid, though, I am aware of myself and think a bit more like I do when I'm awake, only not inhibited by reality's constraints.

      "If there was one thing the lucid dreaming ninja writer could not stand, it was used car salesmen."

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