Perhaps we should give the challenge a go this time round? See how much more honed our discipline has become?
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Perhaps we should give the challenge a go this time round? See how much more honed our discipline has become?
I agree!
I am making "completing the 90 days no-fap challenge" one of my my new year resolutions. :)
I have pondered the question for long and wondered "Is it really bad to fap? Will it affect my results that much or is it placebo?"
And I reached the conclusion that it's not that fapping is bad it's just the fact that too much of anything is bad. Too much stimulation from smartphones, videogames, sugar, drugs, alcohol, nicotine or even your own thoughts is also bad. But since there are three forces that are the strongest motivators in life (love, sex and faith) why waste that energy on stupid things?
And I have also noticed that my awareness in my dreams increases in sync with my sexual energy (felt by horniness).
So even if it doesn't directly affect the result of lucidity and awareness, it does so indirectly by us not taking advantage of it.
Cold turkey! Blue balls!
So to summarize this: Meditate and strive for love, sex with faith and don't masturbate!
Let's do this! :mad:
I think find that so silly. Orgasm shouldn't be the sole motivating factor for anything. It feels good, then you move on.
I say this as a person with a high sex drive, but I have never felt absolutely compelled and controlled to masturbate or have sex or anything really, but I don't have an addictive personality.
Ok, countdown timer says 4 days now, that sounds like doable. http://www.dreamviews.com/lounge/126...ml#post1799024
I'm gonna test the theory I read in one of these posts, that with restraint come more vivid dreams.
Weakamon YOU ARE AWESOME!!!
The idea is to practice moderation in everything. I am at family for Christmas, so masturbation isn't something as easy as if I were home, nor is sex, so I am forced into abstinence when we aren't alone. No problem there, and I don't really think of it too much.
Extreme reactions are a sign of a personality type though, so there's no way to break that. Just mitigate it.
I'm glad the challenge is starting to gain momentum again. There's less thanthreefour days left everyone! Better prepare yourselves ;) . I'd like to thank Gab for allowing me to update the original post. Be sure to check the changes everyone. And also, happy holidays.
Out of curiosity, all joking aside, who on earth with a brain would think that god would condemn you to hell just because you masturbate? So long as you aren't using it to hurt anybody (like forcing them to watch or something lol) I don't see how it could possibly be a sin. It's harmless. In fact, if it keeps you from going out and assaulting others sexually, it's a good thing. You would think the basic laws that good, sensible human beings all understand should make the most sense to constitute what is sinful and what isn't. Hurting others, killing, being greedy and vain, being lustful, being all the negative things that you know full well are wrong are what one could imagine actually being sins, but masturbating? Get real. That shit's healthy.
Count me in guys!
I hate to count myself out before I even begin, but there's honestly no way I'm going to last 90 - 365 days.
I'm going to try for a week.
Anyway, good luck to all of you, and let's do this!
But not do it because that would be breaking the challenge....
Here is just a little tip that I have found helps me with the urges.
When it gets hard (figuratively and literally), take a deep breath in through your nose long and loud and feel the chest fill with air and then take a slow breath out through your mouth. As you breathe in open your eyes and feel yourself getting aware of your environment wherever you are.
This makes you really present to the moment and you access your higher self (not in a spiritual way) but you access the part of you that doesn't want to slap the monkey. :content:
Take 7 breaths like this and then just let go and go back to your normal breathing which will be calm and tranquil, just as your mind.
I took this test to the extreme and watched ehum arousing material and did the breathing and after a while I could even contol the urge even though I was watching that. I saw it for what it was. Maybe it is just my own determination that held me in check but in either case if the exercise helps me there, it will probably be effective at other times.
Good luck :)
Catholics.
I went to an abstinence only Catholic school. My class was the first to get abstinence-only sex education from 8th grade to 12th grade (the school was private and ran those years). We would have an annual abstinence rally to kick off the year, and that rally included a Q&A. At the first one, I remember it perfectly. A question came up "Is masturbation wrong?" The speaker hesitated, and said if you can masturbate without porn or lustful thoughts, it is probably okay, but at the same time, it is like using gasoline to extinguish a fire because the act isn't wrong, but the fantasies for completion would be.
I get the logic, but when you condemn thoughts as on equal plane as acts, then you lost me.
You can do this.
I give props to those pursuing this, you won't be disappointed.
I have 0 religious reason for adopting the no fap lifestyle BUT:
It's been over *210 days* since my last fap and I plan on continuing. I've been very pleased, most of all with energy levels and focus and moderate confidence boosts. Keep in mind this is not magic, but can help to get you over life's humps when you need all your strength.
Most of all, when the time comes to perform for real (and not for our fists), you know you'll be "ready to go" for her. Sure, you might go quick the first time, but the refractory period will be much less.
Take pride in your self control.
Bon Voyage.
Screw it, I might as well jerk off for two more days and begin on the 1st of January.
I'm weak, I know.
I'm not!
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However I will probably end/begin my year with a bang! ;)
I'm not into this for very religious purposes. :rolleyes:
Less than one day left. I suggest the participants to do whatever they have/want to do before the whole thing starts. 'Tis a rough we'll be treading.
I want to share my personal experience, which could sound motivating or not.
When I decided to drop out Internet pornography I started a 30 days no masturbation challange. I failed many times, but in the end I kinda achieved it. It was not completly avoiding masturbation, since sometimes when I was lying in bed I started to swing nicely, and some other times I let my hand move a bit... by the way I had been able to take control back every time and I spent 40+ days without an orgasm, beggining on the end of October 2013. I also haven't had sex during those days (unfortunatly).
It has been a very strange period of my life. After the first week or so I was practically unable to sleep and I spent my time recording strange improvised tracks with my instruments in my garage late at night. Past emotional issues aroused in me during that time, but it was too early for them. Months later I was still suffering remembering the pain I felt and I seriously decided that, if I had been 40+ days without an orgasm, I could become asexual. Failed in this of course.
Currently I feel completly fine masturbating, also frequently :) Sometimes I got caught back by porn again, but now I absolutely don't need it and I nor remember the last time I saw a porn video ;)
Well, I'm out.
See you next year, folks.
This mentality is so strange. I masturbate fairly frequently, and I have sex regularly, but I don't feel compelled to break up my day to satisfy either. I have really strong willpower too, so I guess there's where the discrepancy is, but wow, that sounds super rough. Glad you are in control of it.
December 14 (or earlier by some days) to December 30, at about 4 AM: Successful except for dreams starting up then (oh, what's the difference - it's "not public information" yet it is in my mind regardless if I say it or not) failed because "I" (I really don't want to say I did such) decided to stop waking to it. Around Dec. 24-26 however, I actually started feeling physically painful.
December 31-Jan 3: Success. I even had one dream that woke me up, but I woke up not to messed up pants because I prayed to not do that. I genuinely hope to Jesus that I don't fall into temptation here or at any other time.
Also, you know what? Years ago I was (if it's not a completely fake memory) very mad at myself come 2011 or so, Whensoever I had done any sexual anything. Then when I started to get to talk to it with Dad (as I hadn't had any such talk when I was 13 because I avoided it saying "I know, I put the puzzle pieces together because I saw talk of it on the internet" which I had) I was driving; But, I wanted to rear-end collide with a truck because I hated myself so much. "I hate myself and want to die" was on my repertoire of songs even two years later much to my painful mindset. I wanted to stab myself to death in 2011 because I hated myself so much. (I'm not against sex, but being haunted by porn and asinine thoughts in public is not my idea of living.) Eventually I finally saw a Bible website (July 2012, linked in an AC/DC video on Youtube of all places) and later on got some Bibles (Which were already in the house) and started going to Church. Things started getting better from then on as I changed. Seriously, it was either that or go back to being a deadbeat. I never changed antifreeze in a car without doing it.
I sincerely believe the Bible's advocation of staying away from adultery and fornication is good. Though without action there's no point to all of this talk, is there?
Anyway! Four days in, but I'm not going to set a time limit here.
An update on the no fap journey. :rolleyes:
I have decided to not look at porn either, because I am making the active decision to aim for internal presence and not external stimulation.
My year started rough for my mind, first day I was stimulated by a girl all day and sure it is nice but hell I get lazy!
Second day my friend wanted me to go out and drink beers with him because he was going abroad for a long time so it would be the last day I would see him. Unfortunately another friend had an identical reason to get me drinking the next night.
My swag and game with girls dropped, my productive work during the day dropped, my presence in general and during meditation dropped.
I noticed that after an orgasm as a guy my presence and awareness during the day (and in my dreams) was more disorted. And since presence and awareness is the key element to success in every area of life (and self-discipline) the course of the ship has to be changed.
And even if the fap isn't having an impact on my life on it's own (although it does), The act of no fap is a representation of my attitude torwards my larger scale goals.
Here is a motivational video to illustrate what I talk about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DU8gsZPHtA
But either way for now my opinion is no fap/porn for life!
I restarted my day count from new years just to make it easier to know what day I am on.
To tamper this since it's a bit harsh, exhibit self-control for your own reasons/for yourself and not because a book tells you to do so. There's A LOT of bad books out there like anything written by Ayn Rand and Adolf Hitler that is filled with poisonous philosophy. By not figuring things out for yourself and continuing what the writers present, you are doing yourself a great disservice.
While I think your quest is noble, I think you are also allowing the act of self-control to take over your life. I can relate to an orgasm being a wall to my day, but that isn't a bad thing. Orgasms evolved in humans to create connections with each other, to encourage procreation, and to act as a release. They aren't bad or evil or anything, even done by yourself. I masturbate and have orgasms with partners at least a couple times a day, but I am still aware of the moment, productive, and happy. It's definitely not mutually exclusive.
We're now on day four. I see most of us are still standing strong except *ahem* Yuppie. You're free to join again anytime you want. Anyway, we're all here because of our personal reasons, one differing from the other. In the end, let us not cause a commotion because of our personal reasons but instead, be unified by that commonality we have right now: clearing the challenge.
My intention isn't to derail this this thread, I promise! but 101Volts what you said jumped out at me.
Messed up pants (nocturnal emissions), when they happen, are a sign of recovery! Your body is releasing on its own. Don't stress over that when it happens. Hell, I awaken at regular intervals (usually once every 3 weeks to a month) after having "shpritzed" my pants.
This is the body's "safety valve". I have none of the same "hangover" after these NE's that I might after a fap.
Also, these nocturnal emissions for me have been some of the most intense and enjoyable experiences I've encountered. A culmination of primal desires.